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I'm not sure that "normal" Harleys are electronically fuel injected either.
Ah, I did not realise that. What new Model H-Ds are available with carbs? Er, I wasn't "underplaying" my statement. I said I wasn't sure. If I'm incorrect, well, then I stand corrected.
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I have confirmation that there will be only one engine - which was exactly in line with my expectations and what I was aware of reference the move from Harley as a possible supplier to S&S.
Here are the key points and an exact quote from MMC: -
"The S&S X Wedge 1917cc engine is the most advanced fuel injected V twin on the market today, designed from scratch by S&S excellent and experienced engineers with emission capability to extend far further than any other existing V twin.
The 56.25 deg V angle makes for a far smoother and vibration free running , this coupled with a one piece forged crankshaft with an extra 3kg of weight helps balance out any vibration too.
Morgan have chosen S&S as a proven, successful and quality supplier for the 3 wheeler power, which will continue indefinitely."
The wording of the release may have caused some doubt as to whether there would be another engine choice but today I was told that there wouldn't be and that S&S X Wedge is the only engine for now and the future (as per the above quote).
(My bolding). Which leads me to think they may indeed stay with SS Cycles, but still leave open the option to choose some other models despite what follows my bolding. I am of course basing this on the fact that they haven't changed the wording of the "update" press release, so my speculation is as ill founded as always  While we're at it with the speculation, I wonder what size wheels is on that thing - Not the width, but the diameters? 15" at the back, 19" at the front?
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I'm sure the S&S engine will be fine, but firstly why did they change from the original HD engine ? I feel sorry for all those 'waiting owners' who have already bought their 'Harley' Leather Jackets.  I don't. I think anyone who's silly enough to buy a HD jacket on the basis of an unyet purchased Morgan with a potential HD engine needs a talking to. How many Morgan owners wear Ford, or Rover or Fiat jackets?? I certainly wouldn't buy, wear or even consider a BMW item for my Aero. 
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I wouldn't consider advertising for any company on my clothes. Seriously, if they want me to advertise, they should pay me, and even then I'm not sure I would.
As such, I'm grateful that the steering wheel on the threewheeler is without a Morgan-badge, and I guess I can live with the grill having the threewheeler wings, because it would look bare with nothing out there.
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I wouldn't consider advertising for any company on my clothes. Seriously, if they want me to advertise, they should pay me, and even then I'm not sure I would.
As such, I'm grateful that the steering wheel on the threewheeler is without a Morgan-badge, and I guess I can live with the grill having the threewheeler wings, because it would look bare with nothing out there.
I'm with you there AQM, the few times I have bought a new car I have always told them not to put their stickers in the rear window and not have their name on the number plate. I do think the Steering wheel looks a bit plain though - possible related to the quick-release? Another thing the After-Market will sort out I suspect.
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I'm not sure that "normal" Harleys are electronically fuel injected either.
Ah, I did not realise that. What new Model H-Ds are available with carbs? Er, I wasn't "underplaying" my statement. I said I wasn't sure. If I'm incorrect, well, then I stand corrected. Apologies if it looked as If I was trying to correct you AQM. Not my intention - I don't know either
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I'm with you there AQM, the few times I have bought a new car I have always told them not to put their stickers in the rear window and not have their name on the number plate.
I do think the Steering wheel looks a bit plain though - possible related to the quick-release? Another thing the After-Market will sort out I suspect.
I like the no-nonsense approach to the steering wheel. Although I'd have preferred wood at the rim, or at least dark brown leather. I don't think there is a "quick release" for the wheel. There is a "bomb release" (i.e. lift the lid, press the button)for the ignition. Holden.co.uk would probably be the place to go first for your steering bosses' needs (they have plain steel too).
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Apologies if it looked as If I was trying to correct you AQM. Not my intention - I don't know either
I have done a bit of research on their website, and I'm pretty sure now that you can't get a non-EFI Harley these days. Thanks for the correction, even if it was a misunderstanding. It forced me to do a bit of research. I still wonder how well the S&S EFI works with low octane fuel, if it's able to retard the ignition enough if running on 80 octane.
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Holden.co.uk would probably be the place to go first for your steering bosses' needs (they have plain steel too). I think that this is a stunning vehicle and I would dearly love one. But from a usage / space / cost point of view it would need to be a swap for my +8 - which does not make a lot of sense too me at the moment. If I was in a position to buy one, I would be torn between getting one now or waiting for an S2. With so many changes from the ACE there is a lot of untried technology on this. With the MMC being such a small company it is inevitable that the product has to be customer-developed - a standard risk with early adopters.
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Good point, Brian
I usually don't buy first series of anything, but in this case, I think I'm going to. There's such a long wait anyway, and I figure that anything really bad about it will be discovered and changed before my slot comes up. I would probably be number 400 in lineif I were to order now (when I checked I would be number 373, but since then more pictures have come up, so the list is probably longer now).
With that long a list, we're looking at spring 2012, so plenty of time for other people find the really big flaws.
I still haven't placed my order, but this latest bout of doubt has to do with how to go about the fungicide issue (only an issue to me, not a general "problem").
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