Talk Morgan Forums Community Vehicle Talk (non-Morgan) Electric vehicles the answer ?

Looking at the new leccy Corsa, but at £26k+ pricing still looks nuts.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhall/corsa/102657/new-all-electric-vauxhall-corsa-e-to-start-from-just-over-26k%3famp

The smaller the car the bigger % cost from the battery overhead to provide any acceptable range. I see this becoming a bigger issue that will drive people to shared cars in cities in the future, not such a bad thing.

City - congestion, pollution, parking, road taxes, limited opportunity for driving enjoyment. Why own when you can just rent it per hour. In this case the price is not so important and so a battery car still cover the higher purchase cost.

Well the UK's first Hydrogen train, looks good for the future.

future trains

It’s all changing... while your average Airbus to Tenerife wont be electric for a while, they are coming!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48630656

Does anyone have comparisons of electric v hydrogen in a vehicle?
I am curious as to the final outcome.
Whole life cost based on a comparable parameter such as cost per mile, carbon footprint, sustainability, recyclable potential.
OK, they are both under development but I can sense a dieselgate situation looming with future concerns for present known issues coming to the fore, as with promoting diesel for CO2 reduction but now vilifying it for NOX/ particulate emissions that were known at the time.
There are so many infrastructure/capacity/sustainability/ ecological issues that seem to be glossed over at the moment in the drive to promote EV’s.

Thanks for the link things really are moving along quickly now.

A hydrogen fuel-cell concept, which might be on the roads in a couple of years. Hope someone makes a nicer-looking one, but it is expected to have 1,000km range:

https://www.grove-auto.com/obsidian

And here's an aircraft designed to use liquid hydrogen fuelling:

https://newatlas.com/alakai-skai-brian-morrison-interview/60032/

It seems even Tesla owners don't fully understand the way they work! I have just bought my 3rd Tesla this week. I sold the last one on FB privately in 4 days. It was 2 years 5 months old with 82,000 miles on it (miles NOT km's) My depreciation was £35,000. (around 50%, which considering the high mileage is pretty good). My fuel for driving the 82,000 miles cost me circa £400 as when using Tesla chargers the electricity was included for life as part of the cost (the new buyer also gets the benefit of the free electricity across Europe). If I was buying petrol I would have spent circa £17-20,000 on fuel. Add that back into the equation and my depreciation is only around £15-18,000 circa 20-25%. Check the numbers on any other 80,000 mile 2 -3year old petrol car and see how it stacks up. Oh, I also got 19% corporation tax relief on the purchase price immediately!

My average mileage was 670 miles per week and the range in good weather was circa 200 miles and cold weather circa 170-180. I regularly went below 5% and charged to 100% and had very little battery degradation. Same with the previous Tesla which I drove 53,000 miles in 2 years.

I have driven to Geneva twice, the first time when the Tesla network was much smaller back in March 2015. It took 1.5 hours longer than when I drove in the Range Rover. In the summer of 2017 I drove with the kids to Bergen for a week's road trip. Again only using Tesla's own chargers and no issues at all.

I've had the new 100kwh battery Tesla a few days now and have racked up 500 miles. The range is a bit better, I anticipate 240 being my real world range in good weather.

That petrol figure really is shocking .

have driven to Geneva twice, the first time when the Tesla network was much smaller back in March 2015. It took 1.5 hours longer than when I drove in the Range Rover. In

Genuine question.....how does this figure work. From Shropshire to Geneva. Surely involves a detour to a charging point etc.?
Nick