Talk Morgan Forums Morgan Sports Cars Morgan Plus Four, Supersport & Plus Six (CX & CXV Generation Vehicles) The Plus Six 'bugs me'

i wanted to like the Six. i find my bedstead a little tiresome (i'm not yet 60, too young you see!).
However, i find proportions unattractive (just like the BMW Plus 8) and it's too wide to fully enjoy down b roads (as are so many other modern cars).

CX is the future. the trad market is literally dying away.
Rather than jumping to full EV (a realistic possibility) i hope they can slot in a 48V hybrid system with a characterful 3 cyl motor to enjoy out of town.
150hp and loads of torque.

Has the new Plus Six got drums then ?

Never thought of that Alistair... does the Plus Six use a set of handbrake pads as per the old Jags or Lotus Elan...??? even so if the foot brake has managed to lock the rear wheels, then I suspect trying to pull on the handbrake would impart no benefit...?

But wait... has it incorporated an electrically operated handbrake.... oh, Jeez, best not go there..?

God forbid...there is the dame lever on the transmission tunnel as is used on all Aeros, but only one calliper on the rear discs. The Aeros have 2, one just for the handbrake.
So I presume that MMC has gone all modern and the handbrake operates a cam on one of the pistons. Or something.

When the ethos of a company, if you like its USP, is to keep selling cars from the 1930s. Sure Merc should continue to improve, assuming for a moment that their latest cars are an improvement, but it has to be questioned for MMC as can be seen from the posts so far.

Most manufacturers make bigger cars year on year.

Just look at early Fiestas......

Look at a Granada compared to modern blobs.

I like small cars. No interest in lardy cars from anybody. Even my Mk6 Golf feels lardy and its a small car by todays standards.

A todays Polo is quite larger than a Golf 1 or 2.

I would have thought pressuring the existing hydraulics would have been the easiest. Probably a simpler possibility with electric handbrake although the Plus 6 is manual. Our BMW Mini seems to work in this fashion, as when electric handbrake is applied you can feel the pressurisation through the footbrake pedal. Appears to work on all four wheels as well given the way the car halts when just trickling forward.

. Most production road cars are set up with a front bias to stop the the rears breaklng before the fronts when the brakes are applied while cornering. This allows a bit of slack which the handbrake can take up in a straight line.

Richard, while the ease of use of the electric handbrake auto release with fractional timed hold on hill starts and push button start automatically engages park in auto gearbox applications..... ALL and more seems to lure those of us who learned to drive when perhaps a bit more brain and mechanical input were required, into a false sense of security at times when it really is necessary to keep the brain in gear.

Apparently the numbers are not few of folk injured and maimed in car parks or outside their homes having being run over by their own cars since all this FOOL proof stuff was built into vehicle systems...?

Forgot to add

I think it is possible that when the handbrake is applied it may push the shoes away from the rear wheel cylinders to some extent, and that could be why you feel the pedal move while your foot is on it and applying the brake as the pistons then extend with no resistance against them as the auto handbrake mechanism is doing the job of extending the shoes till they make contact with the disc/drums...? Dunno for sure..?