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Originally Posted by OZ 4/4
Excuse the language but look at what is happening in the Victorian seaside town of Mallacoota
4,000 people forced on to the beach or out to sea.
Mallacoota Fire video.....



Mallacoota is now totally isolated.

Black Hawk helicopters are being used to bring in fire fighters and the Navy has been deployed to evacuate people off the beach.


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Originally Posted by OZ 4/4
Originally Posted by OZ 4/4
Excuse the language but look at what is happening in the Victorian seaside town of Mallacoota
4,000 people forced on to the beach or out to sea.
Mallacoota Fire video.....



Mallacoota is now totally isolated.

Black Hawk helicopters are being used to bring in fire fighters and the Navy has been deployed to evacuate people off the beach.

These scenes are really harrowing for these people, the place has been turned into a war zone and I can't help wondering why the Canadian and American Air fire bombers didn't come over a month ago and dig in, lets hope they can make a difference now they have arrived.


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We have heard from a few friends in the last 24 hours. So far they are safe but they have all been evacuated from properties and houses on the South Coast of NSW. Unfortunately some have already lost houses and others simply do not know. Power is intermitant and in a lot of cases phones are out.

If you want an idea of what it can be like for the fire crews take a look at the video below.

Burnover. The full story.

https://vimeo.com/frnsw/review/382385153/19fc4e3f11

These guys are stationed not far from a place where I used to live. They kept calm and made it out OK but it must have been a near thing. Their truck was not equipped with a safety refuge but they were able to protect themselves with fire blankets.

I have seen similar things on a couple of occasions but nowhere near as severe as this.


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Originally Posted by Peter J
Fiddling with CO2 emissions is not going to achieve anything.



In general I agree with what you say, Peter, except for the above line.

While it's true that bush fires have always been part of the ecology of Australia, the fact is that temperatures have been ratcheting upwards, which exacerbates the situation. To describe addressing the climate emergency as fiddling with CO2 emissions does rather trivialize the issue.


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Originally Posted by pandy
Originally Posted by Peter J
Fiddling with CO2 emissions is not going to achieve anything.



In general I agree with what you say, Peter, except for the above line.

While it's true that bush fires have always been part of the ecology of Australia, the fact is that temperatures have been ratcheting upwards, which exacerbates the situation. To describe addressing the climate emergency as fiddling with CO2 emissions does rather trivialize the issue.


Pandy, I suspect Peter is referring to our governments proposal to include surplus carbon credits generated in our last compliance period to off set our future "Paris" accord emission obligations. In that regard they are "Fiddling" with CO2 emissions and Prime Minister Morrison is trivializing the issue.


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Oh, fair enough. My apologies to Peter for the misunderstanding.

You're dead right about the PM.


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Originally Posted by pandy
Oh, fair enough. My apologies to Peter for the misunderstanding.

You're dead right about the PM.


Pandy, I can't speak for Peter of course but I think that's what he means.

Your point regarding Australia's response to climate change is well made.

It's 12.56 pm in OZ, 41C outside at my home and 44C in Sydney with smoke everywhere.
We have dead and missing across the south east and southern parts of our country and it's not over yet.......

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Yesterday was between 41 and 43 degrees most of the day, a fair bit of smoke but not as bad as today where I can't see 100 metres and inside the house it is a dark as night time with the lights off.

Spent yesterday in the bedroom with the small air-conditioning unit going and the TV with everything else in the house turned off. I thought might as well try cut down our electricity usage on such a hot day. I was worried on such a hot day the electricity grid might fail, luckily it handled the load OK.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBs...RJzzOzxClNQKZEFKyVmmBPqGYYJvsQ1bLGHJ1DNM

Interesting view of why we are in a drought and why the fires are so bad. Maybe it is time for the Queen to come over and sack our leaders.

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Originally Posted by ChrisConvertible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBs...RJzzOzxClNQKZEFKyVmmBPqGYYJvsQ1bLGHJ1DNM

Interesting view of why we are in a drought and why the fires are so bad. Maybe it is time for the Queen to come over and sack our leaders.



Interesting. To a pom like me, it helps me understand that the current situation is not purely down to climate change as some hysterical media outlets suggest


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