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[quote=ChrisConvertible] . . Burning hydrogen as a replacement for petrol in an ICE will produce pollutants such as NOX so probably not an ideal solution. You may as well try to continue to run classics on petrol. The next issue waiting in the wings will be an investigation into all the dust, micro particles, & crud we can inhale from car tyres & brakes continually wearing & being thrown into the air, DEFRA has suggested that it could be a larger public hazard than exhaust emissions
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The next issue waiting in the wings will be an investigation into all the dust, micro particles, & crud we can inhale from car tyres & brakes continually wearing & being thrown into the air, DEFRA has suggested that it could be a larger public hazard than exhaust emissions
I have been saying that for years, and I am certainly not an expert.
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The powers that be certainly don't think ICE is dead.
We see America, Russia, and Turkey squabbling over the oil fields like dogs over a bone, not to mention the various Arab powers.. The latest worry is that Turkey, which is clearly trying to re-build the empire, and Russia trying to agree over the partition of Libya. Certainly a worry for us here in Italy and has been ever sense the French inexplicably decided to destabilise the region.
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The next issue waiting in the wings will be an investigation into all the dust, micro particles, & crud we can inhale from car tyres & brakes continually wearing & being thrown into the air, DEFRA has suggested that it could be a larger public hazard than exhaust emissions
I have been saying that for years, and I am certainly not an expert. Just have a chat with anyone from the London Unerground. The colour of mucus that comes out of their nose when they blow towards the end of the day is novel.
Everyone loves a Morgan. Even me, unless it's broken again.
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The next issue waiting in the wings will be an investigation into all the dust, micro particles, & crud we can inhale from car tyres & brakes continually wearing & being thrown into the air, DEFRA has suggested that it could be a larger public hazard than exhaust emissions
I have been saying that for years, and I am certainly not an expert. Just have a chat with anyone from the London Unerground. The colour of mucus that comes out of their nose when they blow towards the end of the day is novel.
Everyone loves a Morgan. Even me, unless it's broken again.
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[quote=ChrisConvertible] . . Burning hydrogen as a replacement for petrol in an ICE will produce pollutants such as NOX so probably not an ideal solution. You may as well try to continue to run classics on petrol. The next issue waiting in the wings will be an investigation into all the dust, micro particles, & crud we can inhale from car tyres & brakes continually wearing & being thrown into the air, DEFRA has suggested that it could be a larger public hazard than exhaust emissions Chatting to my neighbour who has a Model 3 performance and a Model S said that with the regeneration the brakes are hardly used, obviously still produce particles from the tyres.
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[quote=ChrisConvertible] . . Burning hydrogen as a replacement for petrol in an ICE will produce pollutants such as NOX so probably not an ideal solution. You may as well try to continue to run classics on petrol. The next issue waiting in the wings will be an investigation into all the dust, micro particles, & crud we can inhale from car tyres & brakes continually wearing & being thrown into the air, DEFRA has suggested that it could be a larger public hazard than exhaust emissions It is. In my previous working life I was involved in the supply of Certified Reference Materials used in calibrating analytical methods. The EC, through the JRC in Geel, issued a CRM produced from the material washed off the inside of one of the alpine tunnels. It contained a remarkably toxic mixture of organic, petrochemical and trace element pollution, much of it was from diesel truck exhausts (this was in the late 1980s). To be honest I wouldn't drive any open car through the tunnels on a regular basis: this was BEFORE the concerns about micro particulates and other materials of recent concern. Electric vehicles will cause less micro particulate pollution, as the use of brakes is significantly reduced due to regenerative braking.
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In my previous working life I was involved in the supply of Certified Reference Materials used in calibrating analytical methods. The EC, through the JRC in Geel, issued a CRM produced from the material washed off the inside of one of the alpine tunnels. It contained a remarkably toxic mixture of organic, petrochemical and trace element pollution, much of it was from diesel truck exhausts (this was in the late 1980s).
To be honest I wouldn't drive any open car through the tunnels on a regular basis: this was BEFORE the concerns about micro particulates and other materials of recent concern. Electric vehicles will cause less micro particulate pollution, as the use of brakes is significantly reduced due to regenerative braking.
I regularly ran a LWB van to Italy and back during the 20 year course of my last business. The Mont Blanc, my usual return route, was a truly scary tunnel in terms of pollution, probably because it was one of the oldest. It was like driving through thick fog at times and always a huge relief to get out. I would open all windows at the entrance barriers irrespective of outside temperature, take a few lung fulls of fresh air then close all windows and vents before entering.
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In my previous working life I was involved in the supply of Certified Reference Materials used in calibrating analytical methods. The EC, through the JRC in Geel, issued a CRM produced from the material washed off the inside of one of the alpine tunnels. It contained a remarkably toxic mixture of organic, petrochemical and trace element pollution, much of it was from diesel truck exhausts (this was in the late 1980s).
To be honest I wouldn't drive any open car through the tunnels on a regular basis: this was BEFORE the concerns about micro particulates and other materials of recent concern. Electric vehicles will cause less micro particulate pollution, as the use of brakes is significantly reduced due to regenerative braking.
I regularly ran a LWB van to Italy and back during the 20 year course of my last business. The Mont Blanc, my usual return route, was a truly scary tunnel in terms of pollution, probably because it was one of the oldest. It was like driving through thick fog at times and always a huge relief to get out. I would open all windows at the entrance barriers irrespective of outside temperature, take a few lung fulls of fresh air then close all windows and vents before entering. I have ridden through it many times on a motorbike, the first time when I got to somewhere to stop a few hundred meters into Italy I was in the verge of throwing up, coughing up all kinds of ‘junk’. After that I always stopped and used a simple white 3M’s spray mask, without fail they were black at the other side similar to after a day of dusty dirty HGV chassis work! Simple and worked a treat. BR Colin (you get some strange looks but one customs guy looked perplexed then the penny (or Euro) dropped and he smiled and nodded, he got it)
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A few years back we went through the San Gotthard tunnel in the Morgan. It was a period in which one of the two tunnels was closed for work and the other carried all the two way traffic. After we passed the back of the seat bases were coated in a grit which was a mixture black dust fine metallic particles. We had tried not to breath too deeply but the tunnel is nearly 6 kilometres long and traffic speed was limited. I was horrified that we had been breathing that stuff so I purchased some dust masks when there was a possibility that we would have to take the tunnel again. In the end we have not been back through since.
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