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#61271 05/05/11 02:48 PM
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I have measured the dT in the radiator between top and bottm. The result was approx 6 degee C in diff. Top temp was 100C when the fan kicks in and bottom temp of 94 measured at the bottom outlet of the radiator.
I have got a feeling the dT is to small. It should be bigger. Can anyone advice what the top temp should be and what the dT should be.


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From the Internet - temp quoted in Farenheit.

To do the delta temperature (dT) test, simply insert a thermometer into
the inlet and outlet of the radiator. If using a digital pyrometer,
the thermocouple can be slid between the hose and the spigot and the
pipe clamp retightened to seal it in. Then just drive the car
under whatever conditions are giving you trouble and observe the
readings. My dual input pyrometer will display the difference between
the readings directly.

What you are interested in is the temperature loss across the radiator
and the actual temperature of the outlet. The radiator should drop
at least 20 degrees and preferably more. More importantly, the
outlet temperature of the water should be below the setpoint of your
thermostat. If you're running a 180 degree thermostat, an outlet
temperature of 165-170 should be observed even in the hottest weather.

If the dT is low and/or the outlet temperature is high, that indicates
insufficient heat transfer. That could be either low airflow or blocked
tubes. If the dT is OK, the outlet is lower than the thermostat setpoint
but the INLET temperature is significantly higher than the thermostat
setpoint, that indicates that there is insufficient coolant flow.

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Hi DaveW

What I did when I measured this, is that i borrowed a Testo PT100 temp logger. This loggs the temp every minute. I attached the temp strings, one to the outlet and one to the inlet. Then i drowe to work (60 min drive) in the Plus 8. Normal pace. Then I collected the data from the Testo to a excel sheet. This makes a nice curve on my radiatior temp during the drive to work.

I have no badges on the rack infront of the radiator, so free flow there. New coolant in the radiator, I have made sure that there is no bubbles in the system.

I do not if this is a problem for me. Its no problem to let the electric cooling fan work, but I just wounder what the normal temp is in a Plus 8 so I don´t damage the V8.


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My MGBV8 used to show 100-110. The fans worked quite hard and in hot weather were on almost continuously. There was never a problem with the engine overheating even though it got very hot.


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Almost exactly the same as my experience with a 2003 Plus 8, the fan is on a lot when ambient temp above 25C and in traffic but the coolant temp stays 100-110C and the expansion tank has only been topped up a little once in 5 years. That said, I always raise the bonnet on the battery side immediately after a "good thrash" so the battery doesn't cook on hot days.

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The windscreen washer fluid used to get so hot that I couldn't stand my finger in it.............


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Nothing like a hot screenwash thumbs


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I´ve found this on the forum. "Oldtimer" wrote:

http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/26730/thermostat_8#Post26730

So if this is correct, that the fan should run almost always and working temp is above 100C, then I can relax and enjoy the plus 8 even more.

If anyone is intrested, I could make my temp diagram available on the forum.



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