Talk Morgan Forums Community The Malvern Arms Would you Part-Ex your Trad for a CX?

Yes - modern chassis/suspension!

Two points:

I like the rawness,hooligan aspect of my +4 Supersport and every journey is an adventure !!! It is one of 60 and I like special limited editions (all my 5 911s were special limited editions)


The amount required to change to the CX Plus Four would be in the region of £35000...for that I could buy a 2nd car for a different driving experience.

But as has been said if I came into money I would buy the new Plus Four and keep the Superports.


People in the know including many racers,dealers and indeed Morgan personel often say that the P4SS is the best 4 cylinder model that Morgan ever produced...maybe that title will now pass to the new CX Plus Four !!!

I repeat Well Done MMC !!!!

I do agree that the CX is appealing in many cases to a different sort of buyer. When I bought my 4/4, it was because I wanted the driving experience of a vintage car without any of the associated hassles. It absolutely filled that brief.

For a car that drives like a modern car, like Hannes I'd buy.....a modern car.

Also my thoughts:

I bought my 4/4 for the reasons PETE 741 and THE AUSTRIAN has described.

OK if I win in the lottery I would perhaps add a Plus-Four...

In 2011 when I bought my new 4/4, I thought I was buying a modern car with old looks. Sliding pillar suspension etc was not explained or mentioned. Funny how I now really like the old fashioned drive, having spent £££ on getting it sorted. (Now needs new springs)
So back in 2011 I would get the new plus four in a heart beat. In 2020 not so sure, but reality cost is prohibitive for me.
Do think MMC have done well & at long last produced a car that imho people will want.

I need to drive the PlusFour to be sure. The Roadster is as powerful and for the £40k I am not sure what I would get.

I think MMC have produced something very special with the CX Plus Four.

As to part exchanging our 4/4 for one - like others, a Morgan to me is a modern engine with a vintage driving feel in a narrow, agile and very light car. Unlimited money might see me have one in addition.

I wonder what they will launch this time next year? All electric, hybrid or a new entry level model at around £48k ?

For me, my 4/4 gives me everything I require from a Morgan, it could not be replaced by any other Morgan and will be passed on to family member sometime in the future. The new PlusFour is a job very well done and I am sure will give Morgan exposure to a new demographic, that the Aero’s could never do.
Should my finances allow for another toy it certainly be a different brand.

I had typed this up and posted under the Classic section perhaps it may be more appropriate to post here..

I hope the MCC enjoys great success with the new models. I do wonder at the customer base..?

It was a combination of factors that led me towards Morgan ownership, the most relevant issue for me at the time were the vintage aspects of the design and build. Included in my appreciation of my Morgan was the degree of old coachwork skills put into constructing it`s wooden frame and alloy panels, I soaked up the whole heritage of the marque combined with the expected driver involvement while enjoying a run in the countryside hereabouts in all sorts of weathers with a largeish engine thundering away, and with enough power for the throttle pedal to demand to be treated with a degree of respect. My old +8 ticked all those boxes back when I was younger and a tad more robust at the time.

Time does not stand still and in the following years I think the old Mog has faired better than I to the extent that a bit of extra compliance in the suspension increased heater output, even heated seats and a tad more luxurious surroundings in the cabin may well seem more fitting with the ideals of the now older me, thus perhaps that is the likely customer base for the new cars, though I doubt that the +6 might seem ideal in the hands of old dudes with like it or not slowing reflexes and degrading eyesight etc. etc. etc. and perhaps less so compared to similar modern and powerful cars with all the bells and whistles to compensate for any laps in driver skills.. hmm..?

As for the possibility of opening new markets, well it seems there may well be a market for what are recently identified as resto-mod cars which can be expensive, even VERY expensive, so what better than a factory constructed resto-mod as opposed to one created by enthusiasts...? Though having typed that some resto-mods can be of jewel like quality with quality engineering to match, as in the Singer Porsche, though there are some slightly cheaper yet still high quality options available too. I suspect that other marques may have their resto-mod exponents too, but Porsche has long been a favourite of mine..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VDo-SDLj6o

All of which seems to suggest that the resto-mod ideals may well fit with a wider customer base than the true Trad given it seems for a variety of reasons there will be those who still feel drawn to "original" ideals and marketing of such, but really desire or need to have originality up-dated a bit more to suit a degree of modern day expectations or requirements, call it a logical progression perhaps..? I still do not imagine there will be too many folk in their late twenties to forties beating a path to Morgans door given I suspect their life choices may be a whole lot different from that of those who`s kids have flown the nest and hopefully feeling a tad flush, for a while at least.. fingers crossed..

Looking at TM this week, the general mood is intoxicated by the successful new PlusFour. This is very positive for MMC and for many potential buyers of the PlusFour.
The PlusSix from 2019 had somehow appeared from the beginning with a "different" "modern" impression. Its whole presentation was dominated by the decisive new feature: the CX platform. There were many expectations, curiosity and there was a (real) polarization to the Trads from the very beginning. The PlusSix was from another planet. That made it much easier to say, I'm staying with the Trad or I want something completely different, new.

This year it's different with the PlusFour, which has moved closer to us, although still very expensive. But its beautiful and seductive lines make us forget for a moment that this car will also drive completely differently than a Trad. Not that the car will drive badly. But just completely different, and not just a little bit different. Is it a little more cognitive dissonance with the PlusFour and less clearing polarization like against the PlusSix? What do we desire? The same in "better" or the "other"?

I personally make the decision easy for myself. Because I think whoever rides a 4/4 like me is the farthest away from the temptation of the PlusFour (the temptation or a need to substitute the 4/4,,not the temptation the PlusFour has in its own) because the 4/4 is the most decidedly "different" of all trades and most classically represents the old school. On the other hand, the new PlusFour is a bit more "similar" to the roadster, at least in terms of cost and engine power. Its driver is perhaps more sleepless in his thoughts. Also because the performance of the roadster calls for a more modern chassis. With the 4/4 no one calls out, it is a statement of another time, resting in itself, inspiring confidence.
Funnily taking my last sentence there is a similarity between the 4/4 and the PlusFour in terms of self confidence.