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Do the side screens fit flat behind the seats on the plus six or new plus four without having to move the seats right forward to get them to fit ? It’s a bit of a bugbear for me..
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I always used the sidescreen bags stowed in the luggage rack on my Roadster when removed. The new Plus Four offers such a luggage rack option as well.
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Goodbye to the fly off handbrake too, I see.
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The more likely shift will be from current 3.7 Roadster owners.
This group are already in the £50/£60k zone, and want that performance level.
Current trad Plus 4 owners were either not looking for Roadster performance, or not wanting to spend Roadster money. So I'm not convinced that many trad Plus 4 owners will make that change. Interesting point Dave. When I ordered my +4 4seater I drove the Roadster 4 seater at the factory. The extra cost was £7 K and, though I liked the performance, thought the lighter Duratec with alloys would handle better. The difference in price between a newish Roadster and the new +4 would make me think.
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The more likely shift will be from current 3.7 Roadster owners.
This group are already in the £50/£60k zone, and want that performance level.
Current trad Plus 4 owners were either not looking for Roadster performance, or not wanting to spend Roadster money. So I'm not convinced that many trad Plus 4 owners will make that change. I agree with Dave. I think Morgan are targeting a new customer and export market (or UK Roadster owner) with the Plus Four particularly with its Automatic and Air Con options and not Trad Plus 4 owners. I also think that the Plus 6 is aimed at the export market. If so both Morgans could be even rarer cars in the UK.
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I think you are right the Plusfour is basically the power of my Roadster with the same looks but a better chassis
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That's a TBC for me, let's wait a couple of years for the early adopters to do the stress testing & see if we get fatigue cracks like the Three Wheeler 
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That's a TBC for me, let's wait a couple of years for the early adopters to do the stress testing & see if we get fatigue cracks like the Three Wheeler  Yes, I felt I was doing the testing on the early +4 4seater with hood and rear suspension being a particular 'highlight'. However, which car company can you have a dialogue with the managing director at that time to put it right?. I hope, and feel positive, that as the current head of the company has come through from the factory floor, he will focus more on factory, rather than customer, doing the testing.
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I’ve sat in the new plus four and even at 6’3 I had to pull the seat forward to get the position right. I reckon 6’6 people could comfortably drive this car. The luggage space seems less than the current model but the rear shelf is lower so that may be deceiving. Plus points: This will be a great car to drive and no doubt handling will be transformed compared to trad chassis Fit and finish looks great even on the car quickly put together for the show. Doors feel solid and interior feels more roomy Seats are a massive improvement Steering wheel has reach and rake adjustment ABS will be good to have It still looks like a Morgan and the proportions are spot on
Negatives: Steering wheel and column are plastic/modern, not my personal cup of tea and the only thing apart from LED headlights that give this away as a modern car at a glance. If only moto lita could produce a wheel that works here. Still no clever solution to store side screens other than rear rack Nowhere dedicated to put a coffee or phone or nav and cubby hole has less pace than old one as there is a big internal bulge...For those of us who do long tours in their cars ...not critical but nice. No door pockets or gearbox tunnel pockets but aftermarket people will do these things no doubt No traction control or optional switch for it...handy in the wet when you want to get a wiggle on as I’m no hero skills driver and I doubt many are. With remaps this a potential 300hp car.
There is of course a good reason for most of the negatives , cost for traction was too high at the moment for them to include or get through homologation, the wheel has to be impact rated etc etc but these things may well be changed in the future I believe and I’m sure the hood will get better in time too not that it really bothers me.
Overall a good job. I love my plus 4 narrow body and drive it ‘enthusiastically’ all year round but would I change for one of these ? Very tempting indeed.
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https://youtu.be/aZ0pXTMBbMgDid any one note the Driver is 40sh .....not 70sh 
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