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Not sure I fully understand the vitriol against second-home owners who have often contributed to local communities for decades starting when the farmers started to use more technology to reduce farm workers who lost their jobs and homes. People like me bought old falling down properties and for twenty years have employed local people to run the place often providing contributions to local incomes. Who sit on local parish councils and contribute both time and money to local issues- who pay their taxes and over many decades have only really used the refuse collection - but paid for local services they never use? But now suddenly - I am a pariah?
Because I live 35 miles from London why am I more of a contagious threat than the local farmers many of who have returned recently from their skiing trip? Or the school in South Devon that brought the infection back from a trip?
I’m not sure all the locals in this little East Devon community would agree with some of your views? I know it’s scary times - but let’s not make such badly thought through and broad based assertions on a wide group of people?
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Madmax..... do we presume they will be getting their licence pulled ? .....or is it a case of them claiming some wrinkle in the law that means they are a Hotel with a bar that just happens to allow 'walk-ins' or some such ....one would hope they would suffer for it down the road, but these days there's enough selfish thickos that would think it was fine as long as it allowed them to avoid putting themselves out in any way .
K Is there a law for this ? Lets see it ! In reality things are different out there ...... Initially I guess enforcement will be done via existing contingency powers using the licensing system ....however there's national legislation going through which has general emergency powers on a national level to cover this. K
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Not sure I fully understand the vitriol against second-home owners who have often contributed to local communities for decades starting when the farmers started to use more technology to reduce farm workers who lost their jobs and homes. People like me bought old falling down properties and for twenty years have employed local people to run the place often providing contributions to local incomes. Who sit on local parish councils and contribute both time and money to local issues- who pay their taxes and over many decades have only really used the refuse collection - but paid for local services they never use? But now suddenly - I am a pariah?
Because I live 35 miles from London why am I more of a contagious threat than the local farmers many of who have returned recently from their skiing trip? Or the school in South Devon that brought the infection back from a trip?
I’m not sure all the locals in this little East Devon community would agree with some of your views? I know it’s scary times - but let’s not make such badly thought through and broad based assertions on a wide group of people? Well we in South Devon really do appreciate the contribution that you second home owners make to the facilities which we could no longer afford to maintain without you coming down and sharing our part of the country with us  . I think the OP was just expressing a very real concern about transmission as opposed to a dislike of the second home owners. Enjoy your time down with us.
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Not sure I fully understand the vitriol against second-home owners who have often contributed to local communities for decades starting when the farmers started to use more technology to reduce farm workers who lost their jobs and homes. People like me bought old falling down properties and for twenty years have employed local people to run the place often providing contributions to local incomes. Who sit on local parish councils and contribute both time and money to local issues- who pay their taxes and over many decades have only really used the refuse collection - but paid for local services they never use? But now suddenly - I am a pariah?
Because I live 35 miles from London why am I more of a contagious threat than the local farmers many of who have returned recently from their skiing trip? Or the school in South Devon that brought the infection back from a trip?
I’m not sure all the locals in this little East Devon community would agree with some of your views? I know it’s scary times - but let’s not make such badly thought through and broad based assertions on a wide group of people? Well we in South Devon really do appreciate the contribution that you second home owners make to the facilities which we could no longer afford to maintain without you coming down and sharing our part of the country with us . I think the OP was just expressing a very real concern about transmission as opposed to a dislike of the second home owners. Enjoy your time down with us. Definitely. One only visits South Devon for the warm and genuine welcome extended to seasonal visitors from the local people. Why else would one go there? I'm pretty sure that same friendly welcome is extended to second home owners.
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Not sure I fully understand the vitriol against second-home owners who have often contributed to local communities for decades Yes, I don't see a particular problem. Quite a few of my mates make a part of their living by providing services to second-home owners, and one of the nice things about them is that they are used to paying South East England rates for work. Best of all was a few years ago when one of my pals spent 3 months building a 6 foot high stone wall down somebody's drive. No sooner was it finished than the home owner bought a new exotic supercar and realised there was insufficient clearance between house and wall, so the whole thing had to come down and be moved by a meter or so. That was a good little earner. The only outsider in our village is Lord Drayson who lives in the big house at the top of the hill. He flies in and out by helicopter and doesn't really bother anyone. He can hardly be accused of taking a home away from local folk either, as no-one round here could have afforded to buy it anyway  
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Not vitriol at all. Just in the current pandemic the medical professionals down hear are concerned about the impact on the realtively few intensive care beds in the region compared with the rest of the country. Many of the rowers i row with in Salcombe started as secon home owners before moving down once retired. There is concern about the risk of bringing infection into the region but the real concern is our lack of hospital facilities.
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Not sure I fully understand the vitriol against second-home owners who have often contributed to local communities for decades starting when the farmers started to use more technology to reduce farm workers who lost their jobs and homes. People like me bought old falling down properties and for twenty years have employed local people to run the place often providing contributions to local incomes. Who sit on local parish councils and contribute both time and money to local issues- who pay their taxes and over many decades have only really used the refuse collection - but paid for local services they never use? But now suddenly - I am a pariah?
Because I live 35 miles from London why am I more of a contagious threat than the local farmers many of who have returned recently from their skiing trip? Or the school in South Devon that brought the infection back from a trip?
I’m not sure all the locals in this little East Devon community would agree with some of your views? I know it’s scary times - but let’s not make such badly thought through and broad based assertions on a wide group of people? Well we in South Devon really do appreciate the contribution that you second home owners make to the facilities which we could no longer afford to maintain without you coming down and sharing our part of the country with us . I think the OP was just expressing a very real concern about transmission as opposed to a dislike of the second home owners. Enjoy your time down with us. Definitely. One only visits South Devon for the warm and genuine welcome extended to seasonal visitors from the local people. Why else would one go there? I'm pretty sure that same friendly welcome is extended to second home owners. Absolutely Fox Terrier, we all appreciate how lucky we are to call this our home and like sharing it with others and that welcome is I hope extended to all visitors. This was demonstrated to myself and good lady as we strolled along the Dartmouth embankment this week amid the visiting cruise liner passengers and everyone exchanged greetings as usual, the visitors of all kinds have become the very lifeblood of our communities in the West Country is the reality of the situation.
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Not sure I fully understand the vitriol against second-home owners who have often contributed to local communities for decades starting when the farmers started to use more technology to reduce farm workers who lost their jobs and homes. People like me bought old falling down properties and for twenty years have employed local people to run the place often providing contributions to local incomes. Who sit on local parish councils and contribute both time and money to local issues- who pay their taxes and over many decades have only really used the refuse collection - but paid for local services they never use? But now suddenly - I am a pariah?
Because I live 35 miles from London why am I more of a contagious threat than the local farmers many of who have returned recently from their skiing trip? Or the school in South Devon that brought the infection back from a trip?
I’m not sure all the locals in this little East Devon community would agree with some of your views? I know it’s scary times - but let’s not make such badly thought through and broad based assertions on a wide group of people? Well we in South Devon really do appreciate the contribution that you second home owners make to the facilities which we could no longer afford to maintain without you coming down and sharing our part of the country with us . I think the OP was just expressing a very real concern about transmission as opposed to a dislike of the second home owners. Enjoy your time down with us. Definitely. One only visits South Devon for the warm and genuine welcome extended to seasonal visitors from the local people. Why else would one go there? I'm pretty sure that same friendly welcome is extended to second home owners. Absolutely Fox Terrier, we all appreciate how lucky we are to call this our home and like sharing it with others and that welcome is I hope extended to all visitors. This was demonstrated to myself and good lady as we strolled along the Dartmouth embankment this week amid the visiting cruise liner passengers and everyone exchanged greetings as usual, the visitors of all kinds have become the very lifeblood of our communities in the West Country is the reality of the situation. We were looking to move down there when we both retired three years ago. We met some truly lovely people who would have made fabulous neighbours and made us feel really welcome. Decided not to in the end for various reasons but still enjoy visiting the area (and looking up some of the people we met). You are truly blessed living there. Hopefully I'll get there in the Morgan some time.
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Fox Terrier,
I hope it's soon after this "thing" moves on and be sure to let us know and we can share a coffee or something.
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