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SFG #627919 03/04/20 02:34 PM
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Well done and fingers crossed for the (essential) road test - great service from Uncle Melvyn too in these troubled times.

If the factory were up to speed they could use a skeleton staff to get some coherence and organisation into their spares section and at least have something going out the door, with appropriate 2 metre separation and what have you. I think most would agree that Morgan Spares are more Essential than ever right now in preserving the marbles..


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Originally Posted by exbiker
It should be easy to check and see if you have this switch fitted, while using the throttle with the right foot, gently apply the brake with the left foot, the brake should override the throttle cutting off the fuel, when the brake is released the fuel will flow and the throttle work again.
Most cars have this feature (im sure my roadster, plus4 did this) my tin tops do.


Well I revved it in the garage with the brake on and the engine didn’t cut out?


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Originally Posted by SFG
Originally Posted by exbiker
It should be easy to check and see if you have this switch fitted, while using the throttle with the right foot, gently apply the brake with the left foot, the brake should override the throttle cutting off the fuel, when the brake is released the fuel will flow and the throttle work again.
Most cars have this feature (im sure my roadster, plus4 did this) my tin tops do.


Well I revved it in the garage with the brake on and the engine didn’t cut out?


I feel an essential shopping trip to the supermarket coming on Stuart! flag woohoo cop innocent


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Originally Posted by SFG
Originally Posted by exbiker
It should be easy to check and see if you have this switch fitted, while using the throttle with the right foot, gently apply the brake with the left foot, the brake should override the throttle cutting off the fuel, when the brake is released the fuel will flow and the throttle work again.
Most cars have this feature (im sure my roadster, plus4 did this) my tin tops do.


Well I revved it in the garage with the brake on and the engine didn’t cut out?


I have replaced that crappy brake light switch twice they are rubbish. And the secondary switch that cuts the fuel or ignition when you touch the brake and throttle together is a nanny state POS and dangerous. If you can’t control your feet catch a cab. Heel and toe on a Morgan is pretty much out of the question anyway due to the lack of thought and abysmal location of the the throttle pedal, but on cars like the Lotus Elise which tend to do track days and even in the road are driven in a “Spirited” manner, watch what happens when you try to blip the the throttle and change down on the approach to a corner, or worse trail brake in a corner. Yes I know that may modern cars now blip the throttle on downshifts for you to impress your mates and make you feel like a hero, personally I find that as big a toss as a V8/V12 sound injected into the cabin on an electric car. The sad truth is that we have let the monkeys take charge of the zoo, and most of our legislation is now drawn up by unimaginative, boring beaurocrats and academics to who like having the car wrap them in cotton wool while their Nissan Leaf is made to sound like Ferrari and “rather excitingly” blips the the imaginary V12 as their gearboxless car decelerates.
We have long since seen Humans at their best, that cut off switch, artificial engine noise and. Reality TV are all the proof you need.
PS - I have nothing against electric cars, other than I believe they are a technological dead end being foisted on us at the moment. The future is Hydrogen power.But of course those monkeys in charge of the zoo just cant get the picture of the Hindenburg out of their tiny minds.


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Originally Posted by Uther
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Originally Posted by exbiker
It should be easy to check and see if you have this switch fitted, while using the throttle with the right foot, gently apply the brake with the left foot, the brake should override the throttle cutting off the fuel, when the brake is released the fuel will flow and the throttle work again.
Most cars have this feature (im sure my roadster, plus4 did this) my tin tops do.


Well I revved it in the garage with the brake on and the engine didn’t cut out?


I have replaced that crappy brake light switch twice they are rubbish. And the secondary switch that cuts the fuel or ignition when you touch the brake and throttle together is a nanny state POS and dangerous. If you can’t control your feet catch a cab. Heel and toe on a Morgan is pretty much out of the question anyway due to the lack of thought and abysmal location of the the throttle pedal, but on cars like the Lotus Elise which tend to do track days and even in the road are driven in a “Spirited” manner, watch what happens when you try to blip the the throttle and change down on the approach to a corner, or worse trail brake in a corner. Yes I know that may modern cars now blip the throttle on downshifts for you to impress your mates and make you feel like a hero, personally I find that as big a toss as a V8/V12 sound injected into the cabin on an electric car. The sad truth is that we have let the monkeys take charge of the zoo, and most of our legislation is now drawn up by unimaginative, boring beaurocrats and academics to who like having the car wrap them in cotton wool while their Nissan Leaf is made to sound like Ferrari and “rather excitingly” blips the the imaginary V12 as their gearboxless car decelerates.
We have long since seen Humans at their best, that cut off switch, artificial engine noise and. Reality TV are all the proof you need.
PS - I have nothing against electric cars, other than I believe they are a technological dead end being foisted on us at the moment. The future is Hydrogen power.But of course those monkeys in charge of the zoo just cant get the picture of the Hindenburg out of their tiny minds.


Well said John they are losing their way with batteries and in the process costing us all a fortune in boring cars in an environment that is ill equipped to charge them. I'm rather hoping this current crisis will make them think again and invest in hydrogen instead of running headlong up the dead end of batteries.


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So I deduce from the above that BOTH switches must have failed, since I can’t replicate the function of the fuel cut out switch. Perhaps it is making intermittent contact . Can’t think why it would be corrected by blipping the throttle though.
Does anyone know if the switch is “open circuit” normally, and “closed circuit” when braking, or the other way round? If the former, maybe I should just disconnect it? ( after footling about with the new brake light switch terminals, they are too well protected to get a tester on them, without getting the guard plate off and exposing the neoprene nightmare again.)

P.s where can I get one of those gadgets that makes a V8 noise, please?

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You have to hope that hydrogen gets more focus. People just don't see the pollution with battery cars. Both in making them, disposing of them & making the electricity.


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My thoughts exactly.


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Originally Posted by SFG
So I deduce from the above that BOTH switches must have failed, since I can’t replicate the function of the fuel cut out switch. Perhaps it is making intermittent contact . Can’t think why it would be corrected by blipping the throttle though.
Does anyone know if the switch is “open circuit” normally, and “closed circuit” when braking, or the other way round? If the former, maybe I should just disconnect it? ( after footling about with the new brake light switch terminals, they are too well protected to get a tester on them, without getting the guard plate off and exposing the neoprene nightmare again.)

P.s where can I get one of those gadgets that makes a V8 noise, please?

Normally open as you guessed.

Here goes --


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Originally Posted by SFG
So I deduce from the above that BOTH switches must have failed, since I can’t replicate the function of the fuel cut out switch. Perhaps it is making intermittent contact


It sounds like it could be worth buying another as they aren't expensive and if both aren't faulty you can keep one as a spare.

I can think of other electrical features on cars that don't operate until a certain speed is reached eg Cruise control, Lane departure warning etc so maybe the only way to test the switches is to go for a drive. Just not on the road with the big pothole and with a Tesco bag in the car!


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