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i know several people have mentioned the drooping sun visor problem, made worse by the hard ride of a trad. When we road tested our 4 seater the visors dropped down into view almost immediately and refused to stay put, as a result our dealer offered to replace them and so he did. The new ones were only slightly better and so I thought I would apply my bodging skills to this area. Here is the drivers side visor in place and unmolested, shows where the mounting bar meets the car and the visor. I cut this area away on the side adjacent to mirror. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2020/04/22/37F9B5C5-73F5-46B6-8288-D1EFB433C507.md.jpg) Here are the stainless steel clamps - 8mm diameter to fit the mounting bars. These get shoved in between the sheet aluminium and the plyboard capping that is the construction of the visor - a sandwich of sheet aluminium and plyboard covered in vinyl. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2020/04/22/9EE11D7F-A1BA-49D2-A3D4-721F1140BB28.md.jpg) Here is the drivers side visor cut and fitted with the hose clamp. I cut 20mm of the aluminium where it is bent around to form a shaft. Basically the sheet is crudely bent on a long side around a bar to mimic a tube that accepts the round stainless mounting bars. It is even more amateurish than I am, the bend is not circular, is rough cut and applys friction to the bar by being distorted by (I assume) a hammer. The clamp is squeezed between the aluminium sheet and the ply board capping, clamping the mounting bar in the process - the visor still rotates but much less easily. I have yet to road test this setup so you might want to await the results before trying this out. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2020/04/22/7F4E5BB5-7974-4BE6-8B42-C4F3E1072EA8.md.jpg) This job might be the last bit of tinkering for a while as I can't think of any thing else I can do during this period. I would much rather be driving it.
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Nice one Kevin  I wonder if the 'rods' will pull out, so you could adjust internally ?
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Nice one Kevin  I wonder if the 'rods' will pull out, so you could adjust internally ? Yes, Hi Jon, the rods pull out and are about 12cm long on each side. The inside tube (created by bending the sheet round is so crude that it barely represents a circle. When I pulled one of the bars out it had a small sliver of wood jammed in there to create some extra friction. It is a disappointing bit of engineering, sourced by the dealer and so may not be an MMC part. I'm tempted to make up a set of my own from tinted perspex, using the same mountings and having a thumbscrew through the clamp to apply some pressure.
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I wonder if you coated the rods with a very thin layer of Bostik / EvoStik and left it to dry before re-inserting, if that would aid the 'stiction'
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Nice job!
I carefully pressed the "hinges" (aluminium) radial against the axes in a vice (without dismantling anything, completely with the axes), protecting the vinyl cover by pieces of hard rubber. Made 5 years ago, still not dropping, even on harsch roads not. Should start to drop, will press it again.
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Mine are useless- but might have a go at Bodging whilst not a lot to do.
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How about injecting some clear silicon from both ends using a mastic gun. Once set it should provide reasonable resistance.
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If I recall correctly I simply peeled back the leather and squeezed the aluminium in a bit, I can't recall if I completely removed or only partially removed the rods. Still good after 65,000 kms I did grind back the flat ends of the rods to about the edge of the stand off spacers because if left to long they interfere with the action of the hood clip levers.
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i know several people have mentioned the drooping sun visor problem, made worse by the hard ride of a trad. When we road tested our 4 seater the visors dropped down into view almost immediately and refused to stay put, as a result our dealer offered to replace them and so he did. The new ones were only slightly better and so I thought I would apply my bodging skills to this area. Here is the drivers side visor in place and unmolested, shows where the mounting bar meets the car and the visor. I cut this area away on the side adjacent to mirror. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2020/04/22/37F9B5C5-73F5-46B6-8288-D1EFB433C507.md.jpg) Here are the stainless steel clamps - 8mm diameter to fit the mounting bars. These get shoved in between the sheet aluminium and the plyboard capping that is the construction of the visor - a sandwich of sheet aluminium and plyboard covered in vinyl. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2020/04/22/9EE11D7F-A1BA-49D2-A3D4-721F1140BB28.md.jpg) Here is the drivers side visor cut and fitted with the hose clamp. I cut 20mm of the aluminium where it is bent around to form a shaft. Basically the sheet is crudely bent on a long side around a bar to mimic a tube that accepts the round stainless mounting bars. It is even more amateurish than I am, the bend is not circular, is rough cut and applys friction to the bar by being distorted by (I assume) a hammer. The clamp is squeezed between the aluminium sheet and the ply board capping, clamping the mounting bar in the process - the visor still rotates but much less easily. I have yet to road test this setup so you might want to await the results before trying this out. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2020/04/22/7F4E5BB5-7974-4BE6-8B42-C4F3E1072EA8.md.jpg) This job might be the last bit of tinkering for a while as I can't think of any thing else I can do during this period. I would much rather be driving it. It works, hallelujah.
Kevin
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