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Seeing it in several different forms doesn't give it any legitimacy. Not a good one to promote. I remember a philosophy teacher telling me that the easiest way to convince people something is true is to make sure they get the same info from more than three sources. At that point they'll believe anything.
Nick

I too think that the percentages are probably incorrect but the message is not.

We know that wearing a mask offers little protection.
We know that wearing a mask correctly (covering mouth and nose) limits the amount of bacteria and viruses that you pass on to others. That is why doctors and surgeons wear masks when operating or dealing with people who need protection.

Add those two factors together and if both people are wearing masks the risk is reduced even further.

What the actual percentages are I can't imagine. Simple social distancing is not factored in either.

Let us say that if you have close contact with an infected person the risk is very high (if one partner of a couple has it the other partner almost invariably gets it)
Social distancing reduces the risk.
Social distancing and wearing a mask reduces the risk even further of catching it from an infected person.
Social distancing and wearing a mask reduces to a high degree the risk that you, if infected, will pass it on to someone not wearing a mask.
Social distancing and both wearing a mask reduces to a slightly higher degree the risk that the healthy person will get infected. .

Any kind of mask is not OK. The masks with valves are, for other people, almost as bad as not wearing a mask. If there is an obligation for people to wear masks in public it should be made clear that these masks are not acceptable. I keep well away from anyone wearing that type of mask.

Note that the number of people currently infected are now reducing across the board and the number of deaths is falling too. The number of people declared cured today is now more than double the number of new infections. Let us hope this trend keeps up after the partial relaxing of the lockdown on Monday.

Covid-19 - Data April 30, 6 p.m.

There are 205,463 total cases since the beginning of the pandemic:

101,551 people currently positive
27,967 deceased
75,945 healed

Variations from the previous bulletin:

+1,872 new positive cases
+285 deceased
+4,693 cured

Among the 101,551 currently positive (-3,106):

81,708 are in solitary confinement at home (-1944)
18,149 hospitalized with symptoms (-1,061)
1,694 in intensive care (-101)

There were 1,979,217 (+ 68,456) swabs carried out

Over 3% of the population have now been tested.

Not yet considered a viable proposition unfortunately Peter

Summary
At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate.” People who assume that they are immune to a second infection because they have received a positive test result may ignore public health advice. The use of such certificates may therefore increase the risks of continued transmission. As new evidence becomes available, WHO will update this scientific brief.

Full article here

https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19

If that particular Tesco store is doing such a poor job of managing distancing I'd take my custom elsewhere. My local Morrisons are doing a very good job in that respect, one out one in with an effective queuing system for the tills. They started putting systems in place before the lockdown but had not quite got the till queue sorted initially. I've stuck with them as they are organised. Not many BAME customers in my area. My small Coop have a marked route but they have very narrow isles, only 3 allowed in.

I went into B&Q on Wednesday. It was hilarious. They had isle monitors, you had to hand things one at a time for scanning and stang back in a box on the floor so they could scan and then push it down the ramp. The gap in the plastic in front of them at the tills was too small for almost all the items. They had an almost hi-di-hi zealous manner on the distancing. What fun.

Courtesy of Peter Dakin another fine American morganista..



@ 2 months..

PMSL

Thanks for copying that one over Richard. Gave me a good

Really sorry to read this just now for you people in Italy.

ROME (Reuters) - Deaths from the COVID-19 epidemic in Italy jumped by 474 on Saturday, against 269 the day before, the Civil Protection Agency said, posting the largest daily toll of fatalities since April 21.
The steep increase in deaths followed a long, gradual declining trend and was due largely to Lombardy, the country's worst affected region, where there were 329 deaths in the last 24 hours compared with just 88 the day before.