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Gambalunga #634661 03/05/20 08:19 AM
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Is anyone else taking part in the ZOE/Kings College study? Just under 2.9m people reporting in daily. ( I’m sure the Statisticians on the site will have a view on “significance”?)

I know there is a lot of bad news-and maybe I’ve got my beer goggles on- but the numbers of this study now show UK geographic incidences of symptoms largely at <1% of the sample showing symptoms. The time graph also shows it falling.

I’m not saying it’s time to all cram into the pub- but that report shows light. And therefore that must be good.

Off now for marmalade on sour dough with thick dollops of butter. . I’ve given up diabetes for The Covid Season.


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We have been for a couple of weeks now. Enjoy the marmalade. We are about to make an extremely boozy Tiramisu cheescake thumbs

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Peter thanks for that. I wonder why all those sort of maps use colours/shades so close that its difficult to differentiate the areas. It might look garish but if different percentage ranges were a different colour it would be easier to read. Perhaps this comment should have been in Soapbox.

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Originally Posted by JB62
Is anyone else taking part in the ZOE/Kings College study? Just under 2.9m people reporting in daily. ( I’m sure the Statisticians on the site will have a view on “significance”?)

I know there is a lot of bad news-and maybe I’ve got my beer goggles on- but the numbers of this study now show UK geographic incidences of symptoms largely at <1% of the sample showing symptoms. The time graph also shows it falling.

I’m not saying it’s time to all cram into the pub- but that report shows light. And therefore that must be good.

Off now for marmalade on sour dough with thick dollops of butter. . I’ve given up diabetes for The Covid Season.


I've been contributing daily for some time.
Their latest data shows that the number of cases in wiltshire is between 0 and 1% of the population, that is less than 5000 people. Overall the numbers are plummeting.
Did anyone read the scathing criticism of the Imperial group's projections in the papers today? It seems that in predicting 500,000 deaths and the need for the Nightingale Hospitals and thousands of ventilators they had not taken any advice from medics on how the elderly are treated. The Nightingales may well have been a waste of time and money.


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Originally Posted by JB62
Off now for marmalade on sour dough with thick dollops of butter. . I’ve given up diabetes for The Covid Season.



Waitrose have a lovely tangy Pimms Strawberry, Tangerine and Mint Jam if you need some variety wine


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Peter J #634691 03/05/20 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter J
Originally Posted by JB62
Is anyone else taking part in the ZOE/Kings College study? Just under 2.9m people reporting in daily. ( I’m sure the Statisticians on the site will have a view on “significance”?)

I know there is a lot of bad news-and maybe I’ve got my beer goggles on- but the numbers of this study now show UK geographic incidences of symptoms largely at <1% of the sample showing symptoms. The time graph also shows it falling.

I’m not saying it’s time to all cram into the pub- but that report shows light. And therefore that must be good.

Off now for marmalade on sour dough with thick dollops of butter. . I’ve given up diabetes for The Covid Season.


I've been contributing daily for some time.
Their latest data shows that the number of cases in wiltshire is between 0 and 1% of the population, that is less than 5000 people. Overall the numbers are plummeting.
Did anyone read the scathing criticism of the Imperial group's projections in the papers today? It seems that in predicting 500,000 deaths and the need for the Nightingale Hospitals and thousands of ventilators they had not taken any advice from medics on how the elderly are treated. The Nightingales may well have been a waste of time and money.


We are doing also Peter since 2 weeks before the lockdown as we had mild symptoms. I still have anosmia.
I agree on the maps they need better colours but the rate now does seem to be falling. What happens on unlocking will be the real test.


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Originally Posted by John V6


What happens on unlocking will be the real test.


A bit like opening Pandora's Box....


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the need for the Nightingales falls somewhere between politics & policy.
The civil service does a lot of contingency planning: Nightingales were a very public piece of contingency planning.

We were within a hair's breadth of an explosion in infections - and even as we were, the capacity of the Nightingales was used to ease pressure on hospitals.

Imagine the outcry if that explosion had happened and there had been no planning to provide the capacity?

It would've been like the testing fiasco :-/
But with very public images of people dying, who should've been in hospital/Nightingale

The greater political challenge is how to manage health service staffing as the epidemic ebbs & flows. The Farages of this world think it's a disgrace that the NHS is staffed by foreigners (yes, he really did say that) yet the reality is that without overseas expertise at all levels of the NHS it would cease to function.
(look at fruit picking for an example of the reality of how the UK really works)

How's that going to play out as Boris continues to drive his government to a Dec 31 EU exit?

(all opinions personal; informed by my work, but not representative of my work)


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Originally Posted by Peter J
The Nightingales may well have been a waste of time and money.


Isn't that the defining point of contingency plans? You'd prefer to waste the money than to use them or, worse still, be in a position where you need them but don't have them?

Of course, if it turns out that the failure to use the Nightingale Hospitals to manage the sick elderly in care homes was not just unpreparedness and a failure to see the scale of the issue, then it is unforgivable to have had capacity and to have decided against using it for that purpose.

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Today's bulletin. For the first time the number of deaths has dropped below 200 (174) but in reality this needs to be considered together with the higher number yesterday. There seem to be a number of people already taking advantage of the relaxing of the lockdown (the so called Phase). We will see how it goes tomorrow - the new rules seem to be still subject to some definition.

Italy - Covid-19 - Data 3 May, 6 p.m.

A total of 210,717 cases since the beginning of the pandemic:

100,179 people currently positive
28,884 deceased
81,654 healed

Variations from the previous bulletin:

+1,389 new positive cases
+ 174 deceased
+ 1,740 healed
Among the 100,179 currently positive (-525):

81,436 are in solitary confinement at home (- 372)
17,242 hospitalized with symptoms (- 115)
1,501 in intensive care (- 38)
2,153,772 (+44,935) swabs were taken.


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