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The issue is the prediction being wildly inaccurate and totally wrong, not anywhere in the far ballpark; all of which makes you wonder whether Ferguson has any clue about what he claims expertise in

Interesting program on BBC News channel "click" covering COVID19 in Iceland if anyone wants to watch it. Just been on now (12.30 Sunday)

Some information new to me around the tracking of the various strains as well as work done on testing and other activities in Iceland on CV19.

Only 150 deaths in Greece , they seem to have managed the virus well !

I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on this matter. First quoting articles in the The Telegraph and The Spectator to demonstrate Ferguson's lack of competence is not credible. Both these publications are quite anti-science, sensationalist and contrarian in nature. Furthermore the authors of these articles are have no scientific qualifications what so ever. First of all we have Steerpike, the Spectator's gossip columnist and Snide Sniper in residence trying to take swipes at Ferguson over several disease outbreaks going back 20 years. I'm aware of all of these epidemics and I fail to see why best and worst case scenarios are wrong. All modeling has a margin of error. Also Steerpike (is this Toby Young or his doppelgänger?) seems to be attributing blame to government decisions (not even wrong) made well before Ferguson was an advisor. I'm not sure what point The Telegraph's Sherelle Jacobs is trying to make as the article is behind a paywall and I can only read the first couple of paragraphs. However she is has been an ardent climate change denier and yet uses the term "junk science" like a hand grenade and in the same way we hear the term "fake news" being thrown around. Also her lack of civility about Ferguson, referring to him as "Professor Lockdown", is rude and adolescent to say the least -such dripping condescension is unworthy journalism.

Overall though I still don't understand the criticism. The UK was late going into lockdown when the we were having approx 600 cases and around 50 deaths a day. The infection rate at the time was doubling every 3 days. Regardless of Ferguson's worst case predictions, the country was late going into quarantine and it was this slow decision that has cost us dearly, not Ferguson's science.

Good post and perspective. Well done SW

Now I have a very poor understanding of modern airliners and very little interest in them but in the context of coming out the other side of the Chinese export how will it be possible without great danger of spreading it enmasse.

Two metres separation will be pretty damn useless when you are breathing the same air conditioned air isn't it ?

Perhaps the TM knowledge base can enlighten me as I really don't know how it's going to work.

Ryaan Air mouth almighty has claimed he will be cramming them into full aircraft but they will have to queue for the lavatory, well in all my business airmiles I can't remember sharing one can you ?
Mind you I never flew Willy Wonkas airline and am not likely to now.

One solution


You can skip the weights and plug in to the emergency mask oxygen supply.
And neopreme should get replaced by latex

In an effort to try and justify not leaving alternate seats empty he said that families would need to sit together. Well that's a turn around from their previous approach, I vowed to never use them again when they wouldn't allow me to early board to ensure that I could sit next to my 4 year old granddaughter, when I protested and asked if they were happy for a 4 year old to be sat with strangers they just shrugged and said "that's the chance you take"! That scumbag and his cattle truck airline will never get another penny of my money as they treat their customers as badly as their staff (I spent my whole life working in the aviation industry and have never experienced another airline like it).
Rant over.

That is a shocking tale Steve in todays world, he is the complete article..