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Totally agree

Agreed, I just said we deserve better.

Yes, we all 'cock up' but usually it's accidental, we apologise and we do our best to put it right. Very different to lying.

Leadership is about clear direction and example. It also requires a dialogue along the 3 iIs model i.e. inform people, allow them to influence what you plan to do & then implement.
Not much of that being shown at the moment by this centralised London based government.
So we will see the collapse of any pretext of lockdown; whereas we could delegate to regional councils more & get a fit for purpose more open lockdown that would be respected.

Here we go. A free 'drive anywhere you want' mask:

AIUI the furlough bill is costing the government £14bn a month, so another 6 months would mean a total cost of £84bn.

They spent £500bn bailing out the banks in 2008. Renewing Trident £200bn. HS2 £100bn and climbing.

Many people are stretching if not flouting the lockdown rules. This was before the recent relaxations. The change to rules about more freedom to move about for but staying alert will legitimise those who stretch/ flout and when a significant person is seen to be doing it, especially one in the circle of government is clearly doing so himself, then it will encourage more to do similar. It is human nature and the attitude of many will mean they follow suit.
If it’s ok for him then it is ok for me.
Cummings has made a big error of judgement.
The ridiculous attempts to mitigate it by various politicians are a disgrace in that they say it was reasonable and in the next breath say we shouldn't do similar.
So, how indispensable is Cummings?
Others making similar poor decisions have gone.
Based on the evidence of dates, times, statements (if true) alternatives he could have made then he should go.
Boris needs to make a decision and give the true facts to back it up.
End of story. No need to keep it going as it diverts from the job at hand.
Let’s move on with dealing with the Covid problem.

Hamwich, you have put the costs into perspective.
The bank bail out led to austerity that hugely affected people in ways that they did not deserve. Spending money that is more directly going to those suffering is a must under Covid conditions. The same for the help to people, businesses, charities as we exit the pandemic.
HS2....never been a fan of it as the justifications for it are tenuous to say the least. Covid has seeded a change in showing the ability to work from home can be expanded. So do we need a fast train for potentially unnecessary journeys?
The money is needed elsewhere to provide better value and use if nothing else. £100bn would be a good boost to keeping businesses afloat. Many will not be seen again.

I can totally appreciate your view as we all (I'm sure a couple on here think they haven't ;)) make mistakes from time to time and it's always your recovery and apology that people remember not the event imho.

Absolutely. Quite apart from the videoconferencing/group working alternative, why can't these business people simply set off fo their meetings 20 minutes earlier?

There's a very strong argument for improving our public transport infrastructure, but I fail to see how HS2 is the answer.

Cummings is not a leader nor a politician. Never been elected. Really don’t understand why people are so exorcised about it. The holier than thou grandstanding is pathetic.

The unnecessary risk to the 4 year old child is laughable; he is in the lowest risk group.

Really, I think folks have too much time on their hands or are bored.