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Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
The blue one, in front of fellow tour guide Brian H is from 2004.
I'm not aware of the red one you mention, or when it was built. The green/gold 2009 GT3 car is out there somewhere, but I've not seen it since Chateau Impney hill climb 3? years ago. smile

The blue one is the 2004/5 lemans car
Built by Chris Lawrence’s son and team of hired help and some boys from the factory

The red car is Keith Ahlers car built on 2002/3 for the GT Cup class In the British gt series
As was its sister car which I engineered for RTM , and then subsequently redesigned and rebuilt for the 2006 Britcar 24 hours race

It is still the only Aero to complete a 24 hr race


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Originally Posted by CooperMan
Interesting solution to the 'infill', will be nice to see the finished article


It is a lovely bit of craftsmanship, it is far from finished and in its earliest incarnation but its quite rigid already and quite interesting to see the thought and work that goes behind it.

Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
The blue one, in front of fellow tour guide Brian H is from 2004.
I'm not aware of the red one you mention, or when it was built. The green/gold 2009 GT3 car is out there somewhere, but I've not seen it since Chateau Impney hill climb 3? years ago. smile


I found a picture of the red one from 2017, I haven't seen it for a few years so perhaps it is residing elsewhere - I just presumed it was still around as I had seen it so many times on videos of the factory tours!

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The green and gold car is very pretty for a race car, wonder where it is..

Originally Posted by aerotaff
Nick, it is indeed the same roof as the race cars one came up for sale a few years ago now but the race cars have the perspex infill. Full marks to you for taking this on it will look really nice once its sprayed up but its roof down for me every time.

Em


Thanks Em, luckily I am fortunate enough to have a 3 Wheeler for all my open air cravings! cheers


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Originally Posted by SimonH
Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
The blue one, in front of fellow tour guide Brian H is from 2004.
I'm not aware of the red one you mention, or when it was built. The green/gold 2009 GT3 car is out there somewhere, but I've not seen it since Chateau Impney hill climb 3? years ago. smile

The blue one is the 2004/5 lemans car
Built by Chris Lawrence’s son and team of hired help and some boys from the factory

The red car is Keith Ahlers car built on 2002/3 for the GT Cup class In the British gt series
As was its sister car which I engineered for RTM , and then subsequently redesigned and rebuilt for the 2006 Britcar 24 hours race

It is still the only Aero to complete a 24 hr race


Fantastic achievement completing a 24 hr race, if you have the time I think it would make a great story/thread around the engineering/development and subsequent racing of that car - I'd love to hear it!


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Ah yes, I remember the red car now. Memory is not what it was! oldgit smile
I expect it is back in Keith's collection somewhere.


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Originally Posted by NickCW
Originally Posted by SimonH
I don’t think that’s an original factory hard top period

All of the GTN cars including the original green prototype, the RTCC and Ahlers cars ran the same hard top

I don’t believe either the factoryLM car ran anything different

The Dewalt car wasn’t factory built so it could be pull from a mould of that potentially or it could be something entirely new

Certainly our (RTCC) hardtop would have swapped across on to a normal S1 car, even after it took to the scenery at our first race at Donington in 2003 (the factory delivered it “race ready” to the track.....)



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So I have done a bit more research on this (as you do) read and I have found a couple of factory owned race cars at Malvern that have hardtops matching mine, so I do believe it is from a factory built car (assuming the cars in the factory were built by the factory!) laugh2.

In the Morgan lobby/museum area near Steve's office there are usually two GTN race cars - a red and blue one. Both these have the same roof, a few distinguishing features from the road going GTN being:
- Larger window apertures
- Lack of a guttering recess around window aperture
- No recess for the oval badge on the side
- Aerial mounted in the rear centre section of the roof
- Rivet mounted rear window

Having a look at mine today you can see the aerial mounting position is visible via tiny indentations left in the mould, as are the rear window rivets so that confirms that mine is from a racing background (plus the gentleman I bought it from confirmed it was from their race GTN of years previous).

As for the differences to the road car I can only speculate, I would imagine as the drivers sit much further back in the race cars they needed more side visibilty so made the apertures larger as they use plexi windows.

A few pictures:
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Now onto another update!
Shaun has been working his magic on fabricating new window apertures, and they are looking rather splendid. Still a long way to go, but it is definately getting there and I see light at the end of the tunnel wine

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Shaun is a bit busy over the next few days, so I am off to Krazy Horse to see how progress is coming along on my 3 Wheeler! happy3


- well done for the effort on this so far Nick thumbs

I think I am with Em on the hardtop question as I'm not sure I would use a hardtop much, if I had one.I had an immaculate hardtop for the Lotus which lived on a purpose built shelf in the garage - for approx. 12 years!!

I am impressed with the infill panel that Shaun has fabricated for the window aperture - it looks suitably robust.

Also, I don't think I have seen the red Aero before but I love the way they have secured the headlamps in - clearly the 'Meccano' solution wasn't going to cut it on the track.....

I will follow this with interest; keep the pictures coming......

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Thanks James, I was worried at one stage that it had ventured down the rabbit hole a bit to far but thankfully Shaun has managed to pull it back.

It is funny isn't it, some cars I would never want a hardtop for - but weirdly I just love them on the Aero.
It also has the added benefit of being a little higher inside, which means I will be able to sit upright for the first time ever! (6ft 5). scared


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Interesting project Nick....

Please keep us updated.


Cant see the point of a hard top on a Morgan myself ..still each to his own !!!!


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Not much of an update as Shaun is flat out at the moment, but a couple of pictures outside showing off the lines.

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My next headache looks to be how to source (or make) a rear window... scared


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Nick, try these

Plastics 4 Performance Ltd, tel 01204 811277, they do curved perspex & polycarbonate made to pattern (recently did a rear panel for a Sunbeam Tiger hardtop)

Oh, and that blue is lovely in the sun


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Fantastic - thanks Jon! cheers


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