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An interesting couple of cruise liners which we noticed in the bay this week and they look like sister ships Carnival Magic and Carnival Valor the company presently owes £4.4Bn and is selling off 6 of it's ships - the first of many such sales I imagine.

They are the blue vessels on the map if you mouse over them the names are revealed. i have just noticed Carnival Breeze is just off Portland on the AIS plot.

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Thanks for this Richard. 4 more Carnival / Carnival Subsidiary ships in Weymouth (Arcadia, Aurora, Ventura and Carnival Breeze).
That article on Carnival finances is interesting. My brother has an interest - he works for Plymouth Marine Laboratory in their Ballast Water Centre - a lot of their work is testing of ballast treatment systems in cruise ships.

Norwegian Cruise line has secured $2.2bn in funding to see it through. There will be casualties.

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That's interesting Paul I had only looked for the answer to the two in the bay, it looks like they are stopping over wherever there is a safe anchorage.

Thanks for the the link I'll bet that's a challenging job your brother has there knowing some of the national traits of the operators.

The bottom line of this episode sadly will be big job losses for a lot of the crew whom I suspect have families back home in the sticks who are totally reliant on them.


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Sadly I think you are right Richard.


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Originally Posted by +8Rich

The bottom line of this episode sadly will be big job losses for a lot of the crew whom I suspect have families back home in the sticks who are totally reliant on them.


I agree. And the sad thing is that most of the people who will lose their jobs will be people with little left to lose.


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I think there will be lots of people lose their jobs over the next few months and not just on cruise ships. I agree with you though the consequences for some of the crew will be far worse.

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The bottom line of this episode sadly will be big job losses for a lot of the crew whom I suspect have families back home in the sticks who are totally reliant on them.


I agree. And the sad thing is that most of the people who will lose their jobs will be people with little left to lose.

Yes it's started already it seems a disturbing read five ships detained.


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Yes I heard that on the news. Very sad for these people from third world countries as generally they support big families back home.


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Originally Posted by +8Rich

Yes it's started already it seems a disturbing read five ships detained.


This is a sad tale.

The better cruise lines have been using their own ships to repatriate their crews.


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Originally Posted by BLUE+4
Not my cup of tea either, but I have many friends who love to cruise.
Can't see the attraction in any way, but I am that person who turns left when all others turn right.

Perhaps you need to be a bit of a sheep to enjoy this type of holiday. ( just a thought ).


I suppose that makes you a goat? grin2 And where do you goats go on holiday?

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