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I believe that arch brexiteer Jim Ratcliffe lives in Monaco.

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Originally Posted by sospan
The ex Welsh First Minister was interviewed last night. He was questioning about some sort of deal by France to entice Ineos, calling him out for hypocrisy for being a strong Brexiteer yet now going to France to set up, asking about the longer term costs of a purpose built factory for him versus the need to adapt the French factory. Covid has been stated as a major influence on the decision apparently! Really?
I also wonder about the public money spent already being recouped. The Ebbw Vale F1 circuit fiasco springs to mind. About £9million ploughed in to a very suspect project with major questions about the people involved.
Groundworks at the proposed site in Bridgend are already underway. Who is funding that ?
Where are the Brexiteers now? Is this a case of an inability to do deals outside the EU without the EU rules applying?


There’s also TVR which is supposedly to built in Ebbw Vale. I wonder what will happen with that project Sospan?
As to factories the current Ford engine plant will be vacant at the end of this year. Why build a new unit when there will be one available soon ?

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Originally Posted by Budster
I believe that arch brexiteer Jim Ratcliffe lives in Monaco.


Brilliantly described by Somerset Maugham as a sunny place for shady people.


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I believe that arch brexiteer Jim Ratcliffe lives in Monaco.


Brilliantly described by Somerset Maugham as a sunny place for shady people.



And that was before the "Gangster F1 man" went there.. hide


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Besides all the reasons for or against building the car in GB, it honestly could be a real opportunity for Ineos to get a nearly turnkey and running factory with
all the suppliers around. I unterstand that it is worth thinking about for them.


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Meanwhile our government dicks around giving people cheap lunches with our money. THey talk about jobs but only in the low paid service sector (hospitality). Why don't they have the balls to get this built in the UK. We need to make tings not just serve tables.


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Being someone who prefers walking in a field miles from anywhere, I have no desire to visit Monaco, any more than any other urban sprawl. Looking at the images of Monaco it's just another concrete jungle.

We are more than capable of manufacturing here, but while ever cheaper labour drives location, and our companies get sold out to overseas owners, it doesn't bode well.

Oh and my daughter swears by her Dyson. Well........I've used it there and I'm totally underwhelmed. It's heavy and unwieldy, and gives me backache before I've done one room. Our ancient Panasonic can lick it into fits.


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I will start of by typing that I am of the "plan for the worst while hoping for the best" brigade and I have no idea as to that the way in which the "New Normal" might progress given all of the variables in play.

It seems unemployment is predicted to greatly increase, and some of those fortunate enough to hold on to their jobs might be asked to take a wage cut to help the company survive, quite how many might be so affected I have not got a clue.

As for the market for what on the face of it looks like a RETRO Land Rover...? I suspect the farmers and others who might have a real use for a 4x4 might just stick with that which many of them have been using for years that is other than a LR, and might have proven it`s self to fit better overall to the tasks at hand..?

I have no idea of the customer base of LR who might NEED a 4x4 against those in the Chelsea tractor category, though I suspect the latter may not be in search of a vehicle that resembles an old LR..? Perhaps if Brexit comes to pass and the requirement of parts from across the Channel could slow down dramatically to the extent that they choke LR`s ability, then there may be new doors opened for another home brewed machine.. ?

My general line of thought is that perhaps the effect of Covid may provide an economy re-set, by way of reducing the entire populations expectations in terms of living within our means as opposed to building so much on debt, be that in terms of business, household, or the entire country`s level of indebtedness....? If Covid does indeed act as some sort of re-set, then we might become more of a cheap labour economy in time than that which we already seem to be in some areas..? Thinking in terms not only of the reporting of sweat shops in Leicester, but those who lost out when their jobs, terms and conditions were contracted out, along with those working Zero hours contracts, no sick pay no holiday pay, and as seems logical, such folk may be FAR less inclined to self isolate than those with income regardless of circumstances..?

Seems we are not low wage yet but pre Covid it seems we were perhaps slowly getting there..? As from the advent of Covid and into the future ... Hmm..?

Turning Morgans back into cash in terms of investment potential... that has to be another...Hmm..?

Pensions....Triple lock... PENSIONS..!!!... Hmm..?

Blinkers on, hunker down, fingers crossed, and...Hum loudly....?

Of course I could be wildly wrong.... I sure hope I am...I have been wrong before, and many times...Hmm..?

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Originally Posted by tommog
Besides all the reasons for or against building the car in GB, it honestly could be a real opportunity for Ineos to get a nearly turnkey and running factory with
all the suppliers around. I unterstand that it is worth thinking about for them.


It's a Smart idea........ hide


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Originally Posted by John V6
Meanwhile our government dicks around giving people cheap lunches with our money. THey talk about jobs but only in the low paid service sector (hospitality). Why don't they have the balls to get this built in the UK. We need to make tings not just serve tables.


Couldn't agree more with you John. One of the things I really admire about Germany is that they've never run up the white flag over manufacturing industry.


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