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Just barreling along Needs to Get Out More!
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Plenty of tuning specialists offer re-mapping of that BMW engine (usually for more power) so perhaps a de-tune or softer map ?
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Agreed. It initially appears an interesting prospect but like you say the fact that it will always be a write off makes it far less desirable to do
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Plenty of tuning specialists offer re-mapping of that BMW engine (usually for more power) so perhaps a de-tune or softer map ? That makes a lot of sense to me Jon especially as one of our long standing Morgan owners was not offered any insurance cover for a Plus Six recently when he asked Headley.. Their reputation has travelled.
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I would think that it is already much better to drive the Plus Six with its manual shift paddle to have control.
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People can go out and buy McLarens or Lamborghinis without any special training - I'm not sure I really see the difference to be honest. I've had some very powerful cars over the years (some without any computerised driver aids), I'm still alive.  I don't think any of the dealers gave me any special warnings either. I think you will find that new McLarens, Lambo's etc etc all have a very comprehensive suit of 'driver aids' that can be 'selected' downwards as required... "Race'! >:)
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People can go out and buy McLarens or Lamborghinis without any special training - I'm not sure I really see the difference to be honest. I've had some very powerful cars over the years (some without any computerised driver aids), I'm still alive. I don't think any of the dealers gave me any special warnings either. I think you will find that new McLarens, Lambo's etc etc all have a very comprehensive suit of 'driver aids' that can be 'selected' downwards as required... "Race'! >:) My Ford GT - which was a 200 + mph car, had no driver aids at all. The traction control on my Murcielago was turned off - safer without.
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I see that the Plus Six & Plus Four have disclaimers in their handbooks Obtain instructions from a competent source on all aspects of the
operation of this high performance vehicle.
• Understand that this vehicle is not fitted with airbags or electronic stability
control systems but is fitted with an Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS).
• Observe the warnings and maintenance requirements contained within this
Owner’s Manual.
• Obtain qualified training in safe and proper driving techniques, applicable
to high performance vehicles.
• Know your own limits and skill level. Driving safely within your own limits
may help you to avoid an accident.
• Take particular care when driving on wet or slippery surfaces.
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I see that the Plus Six & Plus Four have disclaimers in their handbooks Obtain instructions from a competent source on all aspects of the
operation of this high performance vehicle.
• Understand that this vehicle is not fitted with airbags or electronic stability
control systems but is fitted with an Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS).
• Observe the warnings and maintenance requirements contained within this
Owner’s Manual.
• Obtain qualified training in safe and proper driving techniques, applicable
to high performance vehicles.
• Know your own limits and skill level. Driving safely within your own limits
may help you to avoid an accident.
• Take particular care when driving on wet or slippery surfaces. That sounds like a good get out for the company and the cynic in me says the same may apply to the insurance companies unless you have proof that you have undertaken such training  I imagine they are a little tired of the number of demo cars being totalled so far.
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I'm sure any legal beagle worth their salt would tear into that sentence as it fails to specify a standard. Simply saying "qualified training" could mean your local qualified driving instructor could run you through and issue a letter..which is hardly what you need..!!
It does sadden me that there is a crying need for a Morgan 'approved' course to aspire to, and yet no-one has any affiliations through the racing side of the firm that would run it a business opportunity.
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It does sadden me that there is a crying need for a Morgan 'approved' course to aspire to, and yet no-one has any affiliations through the racing side of the firm that would run it a business opportunity.
There was the 3 Wheeler training, I did it and thought it was a worthwhile exercise. I don't think there are enough Plus Sixes sold to make it a "business" but if the Plus Fours have a similar potential to catch inexperienced/careless drivers out because let's be honest here, thats what it boils down too then possibly a quarterly track day type course via Aero Racing would be beneficial and good fun.
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