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I did the Morgan 3 wheeler training as well- the only driving training I had done for nearly 25 years - and found it very useful. It encouraged me to do an advanced course with ROSPA as well - so much to learn that I'd not discovered - or forgotten. They put much emphasis on speed limits ( obvious really) but the advanced aspects are invaluable. Things like observation and reading the road. With such performance potential, plus limited safety aids, its all too easy to run out of skill with a new CX it seems.


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Originally Posted by Stringers Best Mate
I'm sure any legal beagle worth their salt would tear into that sentence as it fails to specify a standard. Simply saying "qualified training" could mean your local qualified driving instructor could run you through and issue a letter..which is hardly what you need..!!

It does sadden me that there is a crying need for a Morgan 'approved' course to aspire to, and yet no-one has any affiliations through the racing side of the firm that would run it a business opportunity.


What racing side of the firm?


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Originally Posted by SimonH


What racing side of the firm?


Previous racing side of the firm then..


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Originally Posted by PeterG
Originally Posted by Stringers Best Mate


It does sadden me that there is a crying need for a Morgan 'approved' course to aspire to, and yet no-one has any affiliations through the racing side of the firm that would run it a business opportunity.


There was the 3 Wheeler training, I did it and thought it was a worthwhile exercise. I don't think there are enough Plus Sixes sold to make it a "business" but if the Plus Fours have a similar potential to catch inexperienced/careless drivers out because let's be honest here, thats what it boils down too then possibly a quarterly track day type course via Aero Racing would be beneficial and good fun.


Is there a simple possibility of contracting a well known ex-racing driver like a stig or someone similar. Part funding it from Morgan and then making them a resource available to new and pre-loved Plus Six owners? It would suit the flexible timing racers often need due to other circumstances?

I agree re the softmap on the engine. I am going to guess that the emissions part of the map dulls the throttle response so when you clog it the transition plus extra power is like a sledge hammer. Just mapping out the dull earlier part as well as smoothing out the turbo map would be a good start. While some companies will sell fixed maps the good ones will have a man with a computer that will map it personally. We had a couple of those floating around in the Skyline community. It would cost a bit more but was really great when you experienced it.

1. Rolling road the car to check for an risk
2. Read the map and check how the owner wanted it (all top end, easy road etc)
3. Do various map tweaks
4. Test drive and feedback
5. More tweaks
6. See four
7. Rolling road and document
8. Good run to check
9. Final inspection

I had one of the Mercs tweaked. added only 20hp to the top end but removed the slow step off response to a small throttle opening and made the car much nicer to drive in traffic.


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Like all car accidents the issue could be eye off the ball for a second . All of us motorcyclists have experienced the moment you missed the diesel or rotten leave & the arse end went forward.
That car is so powerful it requires constant attention.


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Like all car accidents the issue could be eye off the ball for a second . All of us motorcyclists have experienced the moment you missed the diesel or rotten leave & the arse end went forward.
That car is so powerful it requires constant attention.


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Originally Posted by John V6
Like all car accidents the issue could be eye off the ball for a second . All of us motorcyclists have experienced the moment you missed the diesel or rotten leave & the arse end went forward.
That car is so powerful it requires constant attention.

Originally Posted by John V6
Like all car accidents the issue could be eye off the ball for a second . All of us motorcyclists have experienced the moment you missed the diesel or rotten leave & the arse end went forward.
That car is so powerful it requires constant attention.


Advice so good, it’s worth repeating rofl


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Agreed but I am not sure why I posted it twice.


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I posted a link a while back about observation training for fighter pilots. Basically teaching them to change the way they viewed AND filled in the gaps that the brain leaves when you scan with your eyes. Hence why the comment “ I didn’t see him” is often the case.
As for managing the power and torque delivery, that needs LEARNING either on a high power driving course or taking the time to feel the varying response in the car. There is a temptation to use a heavy right foot to try out the car. Dangerous when you have a high power/weight ratio and high torque.
I took my time adjusting from the 4/4 to the Plus 8. It is so easy to get a rear end twitch in the Plus 8 if heavy footed, or early, in the lower gears. 3000rpm is a sweet spot where you feel the car come alive but the actual response varies depending on the gear selected. As the response is learned so confidence increases.


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It's not only the PlusSix that has a problem...

https://youtu.be/egWuwNOT8EQ


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