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Evegeny Lebedev for a Peer of the Realm, I don't think this is what we want. The Lords is supposed to be a place where experts sit and provide sage advice and who temper the excesses of Government. A former Soviet Oligarch and son of a KGB Colonel is probably not our guy.
While I'm at it, where are the Scientists and Engineers who build the country's infrastructure, the educators who bring on the children, those that commit their lives to the advancement of others, the Philosophers who question.
This year, like all the recent years, it's the cronies and donators who get to sit and relax in the fake splendour.
Shame on us.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-list-the-36-new-pee


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Originally Posted by Kevcaster
Evegeny Lebedev for a Peer of the Realm, I don't think this is what we want. The Lords is supposed to be a place where experts sit and provide sage advice and who temper the excesses of Government.


Ah yes, you are spot on with what the Lords are supposed to be. The reality is somewhat different. It’s a place where cronyism is rewarded, people are rewarded for supporting a political view or financially supporting a party. On one hand BJ is talking about reforming the Lords (so Dominic can push through poor legislation) whilst appointing a Tory supporting Russian (ex?) spy and Evening Standard (well known for being edited until recently by ex Tory Chancellor) owner who also bungs the Tories a few quid, BJ’s brother and Ian Botham FFS.
An independent chamber to scrutinise, advise and amend legislation? I don’t think so.

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As always - the people with money and influence who get the goodies rather than the people who actually do the work.
As one wise old colleague of mine once put it OBE stands for Other B**<>%^s` Efforts.


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Why do we need a 1000 peers? Ridiculous.


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Originally Posted by Neptune
whilst appointing a Tory supporting Russian (ex?) spy and Daily Mail (well known for unbiased journalism) owner who also bungs the Tories a few quid,


I totally agree with your disgust at the whole charade, but feel that I must point out that Lebedev is not guilty of owning the Daily Mail; he owns the Standard.

The Mail belongs to the tax-dodging Harmsworth/Rothermere family (although they also still own 25% of the Standard, so there is a connection there).


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Originally Posted by Neptune
whilst appointing a Tory supporting Russian (ex?) spy and Daily Mail (well known for unbiased journalism) owner who also bungs the Tories a few quid,


I totally agree with your disgust at the whole charade, but feel that I must point out that Lebedev is not guilty of owning the Daily Mail; he owns the Standard.

The Mail belongs to the tax-dodging Harmsworth/Rothermere family (although they also still own 25% of the Standard, so there is a connection there).


Thanks.
You are spot on, I have amended my post.
That will of course be LORD Rothermere you refer to?

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That is indeed the tax-dodger in question


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This must be the sleaziest government we have had for some time.

Most governments I can remember have had their moments but this one is surely "world beating".

50 million face masks that are not fit for purpose, procured without competitive tendering from a venture capital company.

Robert Jenrick fast tracking planning permission which saved a Tory donor about 40 million pounds and then the Tories get a large donation from him.

Boris refusing to withdraw the Whip from an ex- minister accused of rape.

How can you have trust in them?

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