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I prefer the trad set up at the rear but modern Mogs are better designed.
JohnV6
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Just a quick post with a real-life experience for anyone reading this thread considering the 5 link. I had the front SSL kit fitted to my Plus 4, which made a big difference and was good value for money. The rear, however, which was fitted a month later, was a complete waste of money. It made practically no difference; if anything, the ride is slightly harder and I preferred the car as it was.
It may be that my (2019) car had a relatively decent ride quality anyway for some reason such that I didn't notice the difference, whereas an older car would benefit more the 5-link. I don't know, because mine is the only Morgan that I've ever driven. In any event, the rear 5-link is certainly not transformational, which it should be for the money. I wonder if the rear has been set up properly, having compared a leaf sprung car to a SSL rear even just pressing on the back of the car the springing feels markedly softer
Jon M
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The work was done by Williams so I've no doubt that it was a proper job and properly set up.
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The work was done by Williams so I've no doubt that it was a proper job and properly set up. Fair point, Williams should know their stuff, does yours have the adjustable shocks ?
Jon M
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The work was done by Williams so I've no doubt that it was a proper job and properly set up. Fair point, Williams should know their stuff, does yours have the adjustable shocks ? Yes, and apparently adjusted to a medium setting.
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Personally unless you're a regular trackday yoof, I'd try them FULLY backed off to soft & the fronts too (the front can have a surprising effect on the rear end feel)
Jon M
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Personally unless you're a regular trackday yoof, I'd try them FULLY backed off to soft & the fronts too (the front can have a surprising effect on the rear end feel) Thank you - that advice is gratefully received.
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Personally unless you're a regular trackday yoof, I'd try them FULLY backed off to soft & the fronts too (the front can have a surprising effect on the rear end feel) - I agree - unless you've got it on the softer setting, it'll feel as solid as the leaf springs.
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I don't see that the dampers will be the differentiator between the leaf spring back end or the 5 Link.
You can just as easily soften the dampers to make a leaf spring set up slightly more compliant but as I see it the spring rate is the spring rate regardless of the type of spring.
And also, they both still use a solid axle so no difference there.
Unsprung weight maybe?
What am I missing?
This assumes a properly located leaf spring setup. Panhard rod and maybe anti tramp bars on higher powered cars.
Bob
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Surely coil springs offer better compliance to road surface changes given as you mention, lower unsprung weight but more importantly less friction in their movement. Even a single leaf spring suffers from the friction of its shackles.
Richard
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1966 Land Rover S2a 88
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