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S&S will cease production of the X-Wedge engine as of next month, apparently they have some on the shelf!!

Naturally. Morgan was almost the only buyer of the engines. Except for a few very small motorcycle manufacturers like Confederate ... Without the Morgan MTW, the production of the engine no longer makes sense.

Actually I think it was the other way round, last year during a conversation with S&S they indicated they were going to stop production on the engine as it was just not worth their while. This I believe has led to the demise of the current M3W model.

I may be wrong, but I am not sure that any S&S engine meets Euro 5. Manufacturers of large air-cooled blocks without VVT will have a hard time.

As for MG, its largest compliant engine is 850cc, which would be a bit of a step down for the M3W.

Harley's M8 water cooled heads engine would be a good choice IMHO. Harley is offering this engine as a crate engine (so Morgan should have no problems buying them) and it is expected to be Euro5 compliant. Harley needs money, so I'd expect they'd be keen to offer up engines with fuel delivery system with EPA/EU5 certificates. The M3W cowl has room for a radiator behind the engine, this would look correct and pay homage to the early M3W with water cooled J.A.P. engines. This would allow Morgan to continue offering the Three wheeler with minimal development cost (compared to an all new design).

Perhaps Morgan has a B-Type in the works?
CX Chassis & BMW drive train (as current Morgans). Engine B38B15M0 turbocharged 1.5l inline 3 cylinder engine (100Kw -134hp & 220Nm -162 ft.lbs), Euro-5 & US EPA compliant. Longitudinally mounted (as in BMW F20) powering the rear wheel and attached to BMW manual (or auto dual clutch 7-Sp with paddle shift). Or perhaps even in a front wheel drive layout (as Vanderhall) with the 1.5l & transaxle from the Mini/FWD BMW.

I'm not a big fan of Harley, but would prefer a V-Twin out front M3W over any other options. As far as I can tell, Harley is the only V-Twin motor with a separate gearbox, expected EU5 emission compliance, and available separately as a crate engine.

I think I've read that Harley has refused to deliver engines. The original ACE Threewheeler had an Harley engine. The work only came to S&S when alternatives were sought.

True... in 2010. Harley's fortunes have changed somewhat since.

Another interesting Harley tech is their electric bike... might be a nice shoe-in for a V2!

Any bets on a CX platformed, BMW 3 cylinder engined car with a 'Road Rat Ratchet' type styling called the 'Plus 3' ?

Pray tell: what is a Road Rat Ratchet?
I somewhat doubt you mean this!

This summer was a write off for me waiting for engine parts and that's when S&S were still making the engine. I'm sure parts will be made but in batches so a lottery how long we have to wait.
May have to start pootling around and giving it the best oil in the hope it keeps going