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#670616 03/11/20 08:33 AM
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With lockdown looming over us here in England, I am looking for a project to keep me (and Claire!) sane. I would like to purchase a M3W from 2012/2013 with not too many miles on the clock and in original condition as supplied from the factory. My aim is to create a top line machine with all of the weak points rectified and everything checked and tested replacing where necessary, in short, better than new!

if you know of a suitable machine for sale then do please get in touch.

Stay safe in these crazy and worrying times.

Phil


2013 M3W 1960 Velocette Venom and the Landrovardo!
Phil Bleazey #670676 03/11/20 03:15 PM
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Will look forward to hearing more of this project, Phil! Nothing much under £30K though (albeit dealer prices)
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1271528 looks to have some upgrades (air filter, exhaust) but not others (engine cooling kit)
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202009033246427 looks nice.
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10757430 also nice


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Thanks Paul, They are all very nice specimens, ideal for my project but I was rather hoping for a private sale without the dealers mark up. Having a car here to work on at my leisure, so to speak, will be so much nicer than working under pressure to get the job done fo a customer. It will also be nice to do everything - all the little niggly bits and pieces - as well as the major upgrades. Time will tell.


2013 M3W 1960 Velocette Venom and the Landrovardo!
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The one on AutoTrader looks nice. They do seem to hold their price well, may even rise if production does cease, as rumoured.


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Phil Bleazey #670730 04/11/20 03:24 AM
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Cannot wait to see all your mods!


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This looks like a great project Phil.
You will find a suitable vehicle and I'm sure your commentary on the upgrades and mods will be very valuable.
Good luck with this


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The problem with buying from a dealer, Taffmog, is that the dealer has to put on 20% VAT and also his mark up. I am not registered for VAT ( too small ) so I can't claim it back in any other way than passing it on to my customer at the end of the project. Maybe my business will grow to the VAT size but I do hope not. I just want to be left alone to do nice things for nice people and their cars - not caught up in the commercial rat race - call me a dreamer!


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One of the oddities about private Morgan sales is that the owners seem to ask about the same as the top-end trade sale price - at least for the more modern cars. I can only assume that they look on line - of which the majority of sales are trade - and chose their price accordingly.

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We live in a state where we pay "personal property tax" to the county on our vehicles. Two years ago we had a huge jump in the tax on our plus 8. The county creak said there was a plus 8 that sold for a HIGH value and that is what they based it upon.


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Originally Posted by Phil Bleazey
The problem with buying from a dealer, Taffmog, is that the dealer has to put on 20% VAT and also his mark up. I am not registered for VAT ( too small ) so I can't claim it back in any other way than passing it on to my customer at the end of the project. Maybe my business will grow to the VAT size but I do hope not. I just want to be left alone to do nice things for nice people and their cars - not caught up in the commercial rat race - call me a dreamer!


Surely this isn't true. As I understand it, most car dealers use the second-hand margin scheme, on which they only pay VAT on their margin (or mark-up), not on the whole value of the car which would already have been VAT paid when first registered. The dealer's margin is in this case the perceived "added value".


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