Talk Morgan Forums Community The Malvern Arms Petrol and diesel car ban 2030

Unlike the exploration, prospecting, drilling, extraction, transport, refinement, and distribution of fossil fuels which have never produced any pollution and long-term environmental damage whatsoever.

Battery technology is advancing faster than anyone could have imagined even a few years ago. The LiFePO4 batteries on my solar array contain no nasty cobalt and can’t overheat or catch fire. They can be charged at 3.5KW, be discharged down to 10%, have no cycle limit and are guaranteed for 20 years.

As I've said before, I'm certainly not anti-EV, and if offered, I'd take a Tesla off anybodies hands.

However, I can't see how, in 10 years, there's going to be anything like the infrastructure to charge EV's. Where I live is a mixture of 50's semi's and terraces. About 1 in every 10 houses have offroad parking, many have front doors opening on to the pavement. There's one lampost about every 6 houses. Most house have two cars at minimum. In the evening, cars line both sides of the road. Can anyone offer a suggestion how even 10% of these are going to get charged?

And personally, unitl I can get a secondhand EV with a 200mile range for under £1000 I've got no chance of joining the EV revolution....

This was an interesting interview on Top Gear

Especially about Hydrogen being used for commercial vehicles. Which does make sense to me. Unfortunately regardless of whether we like it or not EV's will be the next generation of vehicles. Internal combustion engines will, with great sadness be a thing of the past, so enjoy em 👍 preferably whilst smoking a big fat to annoy all the leftist, wellie wearing nannies

RR Derby have been working on this for a long time with start stop funding from Government. My cousins sons both work at RR Derby one on Trent (job no longer secure) the other on the small nuclear reactor plants , but at least now his job must be a bit more secure

Yes but how much of that is our little cars???

I believe most of this 28% is shipping then aircraft

If its scalable and low cost then great I do have concerns as to how secure the installations will be, especially in the world of increasing terrorism from home and abroad. We are however bequeathing a spend radiation stockpile for future generations, but hopefully they will be able to bury it in the deep waters along with the dumped ammunitions in the Scottish/NI bridge foundations.

I've noticed mention of wireless charging being the solution to the 'how do people in town charge their EVs'? .... there are supposed to be experimental systems being trialled .... as the average mobile mast transmitter has 10 watts or so of output and is way up high somewhere, but to charge a street of even a modest EV in an hour will require 60Kw to be transmitted to each car every 4 metres or so along the street .... as the laws of physics are largely non-negotiable I struggle to see how this can be done without microwaving passing dog-walkers. To shove the required energy into a battery in the required time will be the domain of old fashioned wires for the forseeable future would be my guess ... which brings us back to the logistical problems of charging.

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Also Id like to point out that as most poor people live in a terraced home then why would they need a car plus they are supposed to be all working from home again why would the need a car and the ones not working from home are on benefits so again why would they need a car. See its so easy to run the country, if you have your head stuck up your a....

Replacing one pollution with another...

But they do contain Lithium.


Proposals for wireless charging - at a frequency around 90 kHz Keith, not microwaves. This is very low frequency. Unfortunately, current proposed systems would lead to pretty much blanking the radio spectrum way above high frequencies (up to 30MHz). Before Peter J suggest only ham radio operators occupy this region of the RF spectrum, there are many marine/air/military services still using the hf spectrum. There's a lot of information out there, but you'd really need to be interested in and have an understanding of radio and EMC (electromagnetic compatibility) issues. If the wireless charging industry can clean up its act, I see little problem with implementing the idea, until they develop faults.
Some will say they already use wireless chargers without problem - phones, toothbrush &c. But these are very low power and do not radiate very far. The other issue is they aren't as efficient as actually physically (electrically) connecting to a power source, so power would be wasted.

That's all very positive and bodes well however I've heard similar revelations and positive benefits when we moved from leaded to unleaded fuel. Many years on and the same peer group that advocated the change reviewed their findings and guess what? They found that unleaded fuel had a higher impact on our health than leaded, improving our health was one of many criteria put forward. It appears that leaded fuel emissions are heavier and fall to the ground quicker than unleaded fuel that remain suspended for longer and we absorb more of them. Based on their current findings they would today not recommend the switch from leaded to unleaded......as they say time will tell!