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Before we talk ourselves into thinking that we have become a 3rd World Nation relying on charity to feed our starving, poverty stricken population, can I remind everyone that most if not all European countries also have Food Bank Organisations,

Although the donation and funding systems may vary, most still rely on volunteers for the distribution and have seen significant increase in demand in recent years.

One of the reasons we are so aware of it, IMHO, is because it is a relatively new phenomenon in the UK whereas it has been well established in other countries for many years.

I'm not arguing that the UK is perfect but I for one am very happy to be British.

In 2010, the Trussell Trust handed out 41,000 food parcels. !n 2019, the number was 1,900,000.

Terms like rich and poor aren't absolutes, though. You might not consider yourself to be rich, but if you have paid off your mortgage and have a house worth £375k, financial assets (savings, shares etc) of £115k, Possessions (including cars, art, antiques, guitars) worth 80k and a pension pot of 500k then you are very definitely rich as that puts you in the 9th decile of household wealth, ie richer than 80% of the population.

Median household wealth (all the above added together) is less than £300k.

I think the problem is that many people compare their wealth only in one direction - they look at the comparatively few people they know who are wealthier than them, and don't look at the thousands of people who are considerably less well-off.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ealthingreatbritain/april2016tomarch2018

To someone who has say a million quid's worth of assets, a one-off asset tax of £10k would be uncomfortable but shouldn't be too disastrous. Sell a few guitars, forgo a couple of foreign holidays, don't buy a new car for a couple of years, tell the kids there's no more to come from the bank of mum and dad, stuff like that should cover it I would imagine.

Indeed, and if one doesn't like the idea of the government directing where one's money is spent one is always free to make tax-deductible charitable donations oneself.

I'm quite keen on supporting local charitable causes, but I'm not quite in the same league as MacKenzie Scott, who has so far given away $6Bn (10% of the £60Bn she got from Bezos) this year. Wowser.

Absolutely, we Gift Aid our offerings which gives them that bit extra, if everyone does a bit we'll get there we are not all millionares and nor do we need to be, it's a humanity thing not a monetary thing.

It didn't take long for Rich boy to reveal his true colours, what a bottom he is...

Jacob Rees-Mogg accuses Unicef of 'playing politics' over UK food campaign. Full story make sure you have a settled stomach first and no offensive weapons within reach..

I quote from the Grauniad " Unicef has pledged a grant of £25,000". Clearly there is a big need!

Poverty is not a political choice. Its a mathematical one - the bottom 25% of the population are poor by definition. Poverty is relative.

And its not unique to us or indeed any other country . See Italy.. Or France

Not saying that some kids arent hungry. Or tha tpoverty doesnt exist. If you wish you could flog your plus 8 and give the money to save the children or similar. Meantime you are reading propaganda with the Unicef headline.

Britain is not one of the richest. We are in fact the 26th richest measured by PPP GDP/ head. And we give more than £10bn overseas to help others. Including money to UNICEF

I'd do time for him. Seriously.

I realise other countries have their own poverty but I'm talking about Britain here and what a shock it was to me that Unicef had to step in, you need a fact check on the amount donated £24,000 alone was donated to Plymouth and the distribution centre is a spit away from Princess tupperware yard such is the irony.

Far from being propaganda these kids are hungry and we should be ashamed that it is happening in our country I think it's something we should all be ashamed of on a humanitarian level.

We do what we can, and I'll sell the Plus 8 if you sell the Fezza Howard.

I'd just rather the taxes I pay go to support those most in need, rather than to some Tory grandee for PPE that they'll never produce, or on an excel spreadsheet.....