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Could you get a small scissor jack, wrap it in something and tuck it under the spare wheel maybe? As the car is so light you might be able to find a really small one.
But you're right, for MMC to design and sell a car that can't carry the means of changing a wheel shows just how out of touch they are with people who like to drive long distances. That’s what the previous owner of my 4/4 Sport did Tim. He bought a small scissor Jack and handle kit from Halfords and I ‘liberated’ one of the Memsahibs hessian Bag for Life’s as it stopped rattles and protected the car. Tied it all into a small bundle with a luggage bungy. BR Colin
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just done something similar - found a scissor jack on ebay that's just 36cm long. it will fit inside the wheel, so I can store it in the gap behind the spare wheel holder. Small Jack
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OK so my Mog is not a CX, but it came with a sturdy pouch with a Velcro latching closing flap which holds a scissor jack, it`s separate operating handle and a wheel/lug nut spanner and to finish it off it has a Morgan flash sewn on.... I am unsure if it was something Kevin made up when he rebuilt the Mog or if it was available commercially. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2021/06/18/_DSC1313.jpg)
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The mindset of "no supplied jack" must be from a person or group incapable of changing a wheel.
Or the judgement is that Owners of CX cars are incapable of changing a wheel.
Unless no jack is now the industry standard.
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Yes these under bonnet toolboxes are by far the better arrangement with the Terry clips for the jack handle just above it on the firewall, a pair of jeans wrapped around the jack and a combination spanner set stops them rattling around.
No need to pull the carpet and lift the saddle board, so a better arrangement altogether.
My 2009 4/4 Sport brand spanking new had absolutely no tools whatsover or anywhere to put anything. So I made my own arrangements and put them behind the passenger seat.
Back on thread I suspect MMC are aiming for the "new" customer base millennials that will always get a man/woman in and never get their hands dirty.
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Yes these under bonnet toolboxes are by far the better arrangement with the Terry clips for the jack handle just above it on the firewall, a pair of jeans wrapped around the jack and a combination spanner set stops them rattling around.
No need to pull the carpet and lift the saddle board, so a better arrangement altogether.
My 2009 4/4 Sport brand spanking new had absolutely no tools whatsover or anywhere to put anything. So I made my own arrangements and put them behind the passenger seat.
Back on thread I suspect MMC are aiming for the "new" customer base millennials that will always get a man/woman in and never get their hands dirty. That may be the reason, but if MORGAN wants to act in a modern way, they should look at the VAG Group, for example. VAG have a breakdown kit as standard. If a spare wheel is ordered instead of the breakdown kit, the VAG Group also supplies a sissor jack with a suitable storage facility.
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Someone who claimed to know about these things told me that the powers that be consider people changing wheels at the roadside are in a very dangerous situation and so these powers are doing everything to stop it happening. Safer to call a recovery truck. Another person who also claimed to know about these things told me that it's simply to lose weight and therefore produce higher mpg figures plus claiming greater luggage space(where the spare wheel would have been). Nick
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Could you get a small scissor jack, wrap it in something and tuck it under the spare wheel maybe? As the car is so light you might be able to find a really small one.
But you're right, for MMC to design and sell a car that can't carry the means of changing a wheel shows just how out of touch they are with people who like to drive long distances. Thanks for the feedback Tim - much appreciated. It may well solve the problem albeit the problem should not have existed in the first place. As you say I don't think anybody with long distance touring experience had any inout into the design of the CX cars. I wrote to Steve Morris on the subject last year specifically regarding the lack of internal storage facilities e.g. door pockets.He said that there were things in the pipeline and in fairness the internal lock box is now available. Pity I was blissfully unaware that the tool provision and storage space I had enjoyed in both my Plus 4 and Roadster have now gone. I never thought about asking. That would be like asking a hotel is they provided toilet paper when you make a booking ;-) Best regards, John
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Yes these under bonnet toolboxes are by far the better arrangement with the Terry clips for the jack handle just above it on the firewall, a pair of jeans wrapped around the jack and a combination spanner set stops them rattling around.
No need to pull the carpet and lift the saddle board, so a better arrangement altogether.
My 2009 4/4 Sport brand spanking new had absolutely no tools whatsover or anywhere to put anything. So I made my own arrangements and put them behind the passenger seat.
Back on thread I suspect MMC are aiming for the "new" customer base millennials that will always get a man/woman in and never get their hands dirty. That may be the reason, but if MORGAN wants to act in a modern way, they should look at the VAG Group, for example. VAG have a breakdown kit as standard. If a spare wheel is ordered instead of the breakdown kit, the VAG Group also supplies a scissor jack with a suitable storage facility. Yes I agree, we have always been happy for over 30 years with the way VAG manage such things in a responsible manner.
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Someone who claimed to know about these things told me that the powers that be consider people changing wheels at the roadside are in a very dangerous situation and so these powers are doing everything to stop it happening. Safer to call a recovery truck. Another person who also claimed to know about these things told me that it's simply to lose weight and therefore produce higher mpg figures plus claiming greater luggage space(where the spare wheel would have been). Nick A lot of that has a ring of truth about it in the way they fiddle the figures, most manufacturers of course not just MMC.
2009 4/4 Henrietta 1999 Indigo Blue +8 2009 4/4 Sport Green prev 1993 Connaught Green +8 prev
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