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nippymog #742348 19/05/22 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nippymog
The accessory drive belt dips in oil to reduce friction and noise, sounds horribly familiar as a fix to an issue ?


It's the primary drive, or cam drive that is "belt-in-oil", which is what nippymog probably meant as a fix to a familiar issue...


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Originally Posted by sbarracl
Originally Posted by nippymog
The accessory drive belt dips in oil to reduce friction and noise, sounds horribly familiar as a fix to an issue ?


It's the primary drive, or cam drive that is "belt-in-oil", which is what nippymog probably meant as a fix to a familiar issue...


It was indeed , my mistake, thanks for pointing it out

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When I look at the inner reinforcement/ structure of the hood in the background, I wonder how many parts are still being manufactured at MMC...

Edit: "inner boot lid".......

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Originally Posted by bmgermany
When I look at the inner reinforcement/ structure of the hood in the background, I wonder how many parts are still being manufactured at MMC...
I was looking for a hood for the Super3 but realise you meant boot lid. wink


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Sorry from Germany -I just just edited my post..


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That really is a very different animal to our 5-Speeders. That complete engine/suspension unit and how it bolts up to the monocoque is very modern road-car thinking althoug it has been used in hi-end motorsport for years. Audi famously had a 'rear module' spec'd as a single part-number to all intents and purposes, used in their earlier Le Mans models (R8, R10, R15 etc). When they had a failure of some sort - be it suspension, gearbox, engine malady for example - rules permitted them to change that single component, handily fixing everything in one hit - or something like that anyway.

The rigidity of that engine/suspension unit will be absolute and aside from a potentialy higher CofG, I suspect the handling will be superb, with none of the interesting traits our cars have shown throughout their lives. Whether that makes character is personal opinion, but I expect those first Press Drives in the near future will rave about it. Having said that, my car was such a hoot at Goodwood this week that the old "If it ain't broke...." tagline is firmly flying around my head right now thumbs

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With no crush zones apparent, I would be concerned about front end impact forces being driven back to the passenger and driver by those rigid castings.


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I view my overall safety in much the same vein as riding a motorcycle, which could end badly in the case of any shunt, whichever way you look at it in such a small and vulnerable vehicle. I take your point though and it would be interesting to know what hoops MMC have had to jump through in terms of Homologation for the new car - things are probably an awful lot tighter now than they were in 2011 when they aligned the then new M3W to the regs?

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Originally Posted by Lance
With no crush zones apparent, I would be concerned about front end impact forces being driven back to the passenger and driver by those rigid castings.


You should consider it a motorcycle with more protection, rather than a car with less laugh

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Originally Posted by R1NGA
I view my overall safety in much the same vein as riding a motorcycle, which could end badly in the case of any shunt, whichever way you look at it in such a small and vulnerable vehicle. I take your point though and it would be interesting to know what hoops MMC have had to jump through in terms of Homologation for the new car - things are probably an awful lot tighter now than they were in 2011 when they aligned the then new M3W to the regs?


Since it's homologated as a motorcycle I don't think it needs to comply to any crash test smile

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