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Appearantly, the cause of the problem was a too high porosity in the alloy cast causing the rubber to wear out prematurely. The old style cast iron master cylinders may have weighed a little more, but I never heard of such issues with cast iron cylinders.

Dealer tells me MMC have ordered new master cylinders which will take 2 - 3 weeks to deliver then fitting can start.

Don't take this as a definite time period though - any other dealer info?

Hawki who owns a CX had heard nothing as of this pm.

Casting produces a lower strength product than wrought processes as the cast microstructure can be porous unless the process is designed and managed correctly. There are casting methods to reduce porosity......centrifugal, vacuum, pressurised etc. The castings would then be machined where needed to a final size/ tolerance. That can expose sub-surface porosity to be opened up. There should then be an inspection stage to detect problems and allow suspect batches to be isolated and further checks done. Critical components would be 100% inspected rather than sequential sampling in a sampling plan. For example, investment cast jet engine turbine blades 100% with potentially high reject levels. Having a strong process control is essential. Make it simple to do correctly and difficult to stray from correct practises. The TVR story told in an earlier post is, unfortunately, “old school uk manufacturing attitude”. Remember the Harvey-Jones Morgan tv program years ago?
They all do that, sir.
Oh! The joys of setting up inspection systems and getting the message across from factory floor to boardroom!
I dealt with HMRC for Tobacco duty. Huge £££££ sums involved. Teaching some of their auditing people was fun. Sampling plans based on standard accepted statistical methods.

Just heard the same from my Dealer.

Sounds very much like buying on price, not performance!

If only there was a technology that would allow Morgan to communicate with people quickly so they could show their honest desire to correct this as quickly as possible. Perhaps we should invent something like Faceplant or email, draw up a list of people and attach them (and the dealers) so they can over communicate with a regular cadence. That would be amazing

I’ve Just had an email which says the same.Lets hope this new batch produced in a rush is going to be much better.
I also think the factory will fit theirs first,so 3 weeks I very much doubt that.
In the real world I think most repairs will be August onwards. If this is the case I’ve lost 5 months of the best part of the year.wonder what MMC and dealers are going to offer me.? Free services etc?

Probably a tee shirt with "I'm a Beta tester" on it

To be fair none of what is happening around the CX is that different to the issues the Aero models had even late into the platforms life with the 2013 Coupe I took ownership of.

We collected the Coupe from the factory on my 50th birthday and in the next 18 months it literally spent 9 months back at the factory being sorted. From memory it had six trips. Since then there have been further situations that have bought my blood to the boil.

When I do boil I have to remind myself that the team there do not do this to get a rise out of us. Every penny that gets pulled out of them in "compo" detracts from bottom line which removes investment and raises prices. You just have to put on your grown up trousers and back off the coffee for a bit.

Did I go into this assuming the Coupe would be as solid as an AMG (which actually cost less), ha ha no I don't think so. Did I expect to suffer the level of crap that occurred? no. It's the utterly terrible attention to service that has disappointed me most about Morgan.

Parts prices
Parts availability
Communication
Attitude

I still have the emails and messages. Someone should be feeling very embarrassed.

But the car is special unlike anything else I have found. I am privileged to have a daily rumble and so not be reliant on the Coupe.

Perspective is something only available after the event.