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I would just remove the little screws and drop the plastic dash under tray in the first instance. Take a look behind the glove box, you may well find it.


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Originally Posted by Rog
I would just remove the little screws and drop the plastic dash under tray in the first instance.

Anyone know where to get exact replacements for those little black screws with their integral washers ? (mine have been removed many times and have become somewhat worn)


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Originally Posted by Montegue
Actually if we zoom in even closer and turn up the colour stauration it seems even more likely the tracer is indeed yellow sherlock

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Please let me know if I'm looking at the right connector, also if someone could link me to a post that covers dash removal I'd be very grateful.

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That definately looks like the one Dave, an eight way connector with just two wires as mentioned thumbs It also fits in with proximity to cig lighter socket wires which branch from same area.

It simply doesn't make sense to re-invent the wheel and run in fresh wiring when MMC have provided it for you.

Whilst on this subject I wish folk would stop banging on about the infamous PCB in this case, it just adds unjustified doubt and confusion. As explained I've traced the wiring for such from battery through to actual lights and it routes, via three fuses admittedly, with simple connections and no interaction by anything other than sidelight stalk switch and certainly not the PCB. Furthermore there must have been a few cars of that era spec'd with fog or spot lamps factory fitted from new, and I've seen no reports of their failure. Sorry for rant.



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Originally Posted by Rog
I would just remove the little screws and drop the plastic dash under tray in the first instance.

Anyone know where to get exact replacements for those little black screws with their integral washers ? (mine have been removed many times and have become somewhat worn)

Search for "black screw with washer" on eBay. There are a variety available and sure you would find a match to measured size of OE.


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Thanks Richard I tried that and got lost in the mass of similar items !


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Originally Posted by RichardV6
That definately looks like the one Dave, an eight way connector with just two wires as mentioned thumbs It also fits in with proximity to cig lighter socket wires which branch from same area.


Excellent, thanks for all your help Richard, we got there in the end smile

If we look clisely below it actually seems likely that red wire has an orange trace too, just as you described woohoo

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Originally Posted by Rog
I would just remove the little screws and drop the plastic dash under tray in the first instance. Take a look behind the glove box, you may well find it.


Will do Rog, much appreciated, and a special thanks for sharing the photo of the connector thumbs

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Originally Posted by Montegue
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That connector into the cig lighter socket looks like it's been overheating, suggest the OP checks it


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What's this then?

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Well I never thinking

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Let's pull it out a bit confused2

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Removing the insulating tape sherlock

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Revealing the three wires we've been looking for, sure looks like the fog light switch loom to me crazy2

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The sub loom is quite long, it reaches the steering column cowl to the right tongue2

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And all the way to the passenger side on the left winky

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Hmmm, what's this then? confused

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Oh silly me, I've got a switch for my front fog lights already! Interestingly it's a momentary switch innocent

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And finally, Morgan has kindly provided the wiring for a useful second 12v power supply or USB charger socket joy

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I'm going to call this evening’s casual investigations a blinding success woohoo

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Hmm! a lot to take in there. Unused wires you may have found:

Purple and black wires terminating in female spade connectors are optional map light connections. Beware purple is permanently live.

Single red/orange also terminating in female spade and routed from cigar lighter - guessing this is panel light fed illumination for same.

2 x 8 way connectors - radio hook up if you don't have one fitted.

A little sceptical regarding fog light wires. Was expecting you to find the 8 way connector shown in Rog's picture with just the two wires mentioned. Can I take it you haven't found such?

Regarding switch you have top left. It has the icon for front fog but it's not clear on your pics if you have similar rear fog switch which I would expect to be top right. This should have similar icon but with beam lines sloping downwards. Can you confirm?

In any case I would suggest finding blue/yellow wires under front wings and hooking those up to your fog lights with suitable ground connections as discussed. This will give you the opportunity for testing at the dash end. Given your findings so far it could be they simply work with switch found smile


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Originally Posted by RichardV6
Hmm! a lot to take in there. Unused wires you may have found:
Regarding switch you have top left. It has the icon for front fog but it's not clear on your pics if you have similar rear fog switch which I would expect to be top right. This should have similar icon but with beam lines sloping downwards. Can you confirm?


In my car the icon for front fog has the three lines to the left of the lamp and sloping downwards. It lights up green.

The rear fog icon has the lines to the right of the lamp as in Montegue's photo above. They are horizontal and light up yellow. My guess is that the switch in the photo is for rear fog.

Easily checked if the fog lights are hooked up as suggested.

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