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But will the one at Williams actually sell for £250k. (Just want to point out that the Coupe was even more rare, just saying, for a friend, £350k?????)

No idea.


Not that the rest of the car is more common



Probably because I had no/very low expectation from a car that has almost been built in a backyard (despite from the price, but this is a different topic) but I am pleasently surprised of the driving and overall reliability of this car, after almost 70.000km. I never had a car that lasted so long in my garage.

Yes that's the key indicator, how long it remains in your garage. Your emotional connection with it.

It is far from the best handling car I have had (968CS, GTR33, VR6) and it is not even on the same planet as the most reliable (Phaeton, CL600, Volvo 850T5R) but if it were sold I worry it would feel like someone had chopped my arm off.

I think you hit the nail on the head Alistair in terms of our emotional involvement with a vehicle and the length of time we care to hold on to it.

I do really appreciate high quality engineering, which is one of the reasons after quite a few years of hands-on experience of old Brit sports cars I ended up as a Porsche enthusiast. By the time I was ready to dig deep to buy a Morgan, I was fortunate to have been well educated by those on the MSCC DG and eMog as to the realities of Morgan ownership both old and new....Thus I accepted that my expectations of design and build quality would have to be readjusted from that of Porsche (air cooled) for me to become happy in terms of cost benefit analysis of living with a Morgan.

I feel fortunate over the years to have learned through the experiences of others both good and not so good as to their expectations of Morgans compared to robotically constructed new vehicles in a similar price range, thus it seems there may be a lack of appreciation as to the variables involved..?

Bottom line for me is that after 20 years and a tad under 30k miles in my Morgan, despite that it does not fit my motoring requirements as it did for the younger and fitter man I once was, it still sits in my garage alongside it`s supposed replacement....In my defence I did fire it up and enjoyed a few all too short miles last weekend.. (-:

Ale 72, your Morgan is a thing of beauty and in such a spectacular colour that finding something to take it`s place would seem close to impossible. Also many thanks for the wonderful images that you have posted of it on TM..

Alistair,

I'm not so sure that time in your garage is always a good indicator of your fondness for a car, or more a practical reality that comes from accepting the foibles and idiosyncratic traits of a given car. My measure is the number of halcyon drives I can attribute to the car, that stand head and shoulders over everything else I have experienced. That could be a combination of roads, company or circumstances that contribute to making it more memorable.

I had my Porsche 930 Turbo for nearly 10 years and can only count 2 really halcyon drives in all that time. By comparison I had a Mercedes E320 sportline cabriolet I had for a two years covered about 60k miles in it, where it just excelled on some many levels with its balance of balance of power and useable performance and was such great fun roof down and lead to a further 4 examples being in my garage upto quite recently when the last one was stolen whilst in storage.

Of course everyone will have their own measures of what constitutes a halcyon drive., but may I suggest that lengthy periods of inactivity whilst garaged isn't one of them. Whilst I enjoy my Roadster, I prefer to drive in it in the spring and autumn months where the problems of cabin heat sink and holiday traffic laden local roads form less of a hinderance to its enjoyment. I'd take my old E320 cabriolet with all year round use any day over it, which I used to drive roof down all year round as long as the mohair hood was dry. But as they say each to their own.

I think you may have missed a trick or two John in terms of evaluation relative to everyone having their own set of priorities..?

When I bought my Morgan I did not intend for it to spend as much time in the garage as it has done over the years, just that life and it`s ever changing priorities determined otherwise, though that does not take away from my all important emotional involvement with it given the memories related to numerous adventures enjoyed in it over the years, and fellowship enjoyed with others both in the real and cyber world.

To add to the above, in my eyes, Morgans are works of automotive art and ownership of my +8 can provide a sense of well being each time I walk into my garage for any purpose, or when I run a duster over it, or better still when I take it for an occasional run.

My guess is that there are many possible areas of emotional involvement with one`s Morgan, even if one is not fortunate enough to be able to enjoy track days or epic drives, both of which I have been fortunate enough to experience over the years..(-: There are also likely to be those who rarely if ever drive their Morgans and never ever planned to do so, perhaps their Morgan bought as a rebuild project or just to take to the occasional car meeting and existing much of it`s time as a garage queen...?

I had a friend who suffered ill health and equipped his garage with comforts such that he could spend time in his garage just enjoying his cars.

Again as you typed John and I fully agree with , each to their own.

I do like the look of my Roadster 4 seater, its a beautifully balanced last iteration of the 4 seater with a very flowing roof line and low stance, that gave it a very 1930's look, Which many passers-by also echo when ever it is parked up. But not enough in my eyes to give it garage space on that basis alone, if it doesn't perform on some level dynamically, facilitating the enjoyment one derives when driving it. That doesn't mean to say that it has to have outstanding performance or handling characteristics, just be as complete a car for the needs I have when I drive it. The Porsche was a very challenging car to drive fast, but when you used its performance to the full, you endangered your licence. The Mercedes wasn't that much slower in real world useable terms and achieved far more enjoyable moments in a lower performance envelope. To put into Morgan context, I think I had far more fun in my 4/4's then with the Roadster so far to-date..

Many thanks for sharing further insight to your personal vehicular ideals which have the potential to increase a degree of understanding relative to your thinking John. As ever relativity would seem to play a large part in the creation of personal ideals..?

As I have typed it took the equivalent of five years of savings to buy my Morgan, which equates to some degree of financial sacrifice and thus some measure of emotional involvement from the outset, which was added to over the years in terms of adventures enjoyed and memories created.. My +8 was the first sports car I had bought which was in concours condition at the time of purchase, as previous to that and over many decades my sports cars were bought in need of work, some needing as much as a year or so of my time spent in my rather cold and oft times damp garage to bring them back to usable condition, thus by the time they were road ready there had been considerable amounts of emotional involvement with them..from expressing expletives in pain or frustration to expressing expletives with a different tone at the sense of enjoyment on finally being able to drive it down the road.(-:

I suspect perhaps only those who have brought old cars back to life or finally managed to effect a long running repair process, may understand fully the degree of emotions possible as the result of involvement in such processes..? My Concours Morgan purchase was very different from all that went on before, likewise the purchase of my 991 just over a year ago....Quite a bit more savings went into the purchase of the 991, and as you might expect, the difference in performance expectations between it and the +8 differ considerably. As for the emotional connection comparison, it` kinda hard to evaluate as there are so many different levels to contemplate. However if one might determine that function over form would be the primary criteria for judgement, then the 991 would win as it better fits my transport needs at this moment in time, whereas when younger it was the move away from 911 and into Morgan ownership that more suited my needs and desires of more driver involvement at road legal speeds at that period of time , thus it seems priorities can evolve as can some degree of emotional involvement...?

As for basic vehicle functionality/performance.... I guess an EV shopping trolley might be the govt allocated transportation allowance in time for the over 70`s, that is if future euthanasia age limit regs might allow...! Till then I shall wallow in as much ICE emotional involvement and appreciation as I might be able to enjoy, hopefully without doing too much damage to the planet.. As ever, each to their own.

Apologies for the usual thread drift

I did mine the other way round - used a number of credit cards to fund mine and have been juggling with balance transfers for the last 4 years to keep interest payments down The spend has increased with the gearbox, braking, suspension and interior mods, but I reckon I will have paid off everything in about 6 to 9 months Considerable financial sacrifce, but emotionally not many out there can say they have a beautiful factory sports car with parts built by their Grandad .......

As of now I am driving the aston much more than the morgan.
But fact is that the morgan has been driven for 5k km per year in average (consider that during the week I only use public transport since it is definitely more meaningful).
And she succeded to bury a 997S, a 964C4C, a 987spyder and likely she will make it with the Aston as well.
Good job, crap, beloved car

PS thanks Luddite. You are too generous