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I'd buy a Caterham kit, and build that and sell it (perhaps even at a loss) and....
buy a 70s plus 8. (Sorry, not very good at sticking to the rules)
Dave Blue 4/4 1969, Green +4 1953, (different) Green +8 1977
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I'd go down the Chesil Speedster myself. Still in the ethos of Morgan where it's modern-ish components but a classic car experience.
Actually I’d forgotten the Chesil - hopefully Westfield will restart manufacturing them this year. I like their version, as they don’t use an old VW donor car - it’s all brand new. And the electric version is interesting too! They use the rear diff from a donor car and I believe some of the floor pan, if you don't go with their bespoke chassis. This then allows it to be registered as an historic car. If memory serves me correctly, a half decent spec'd one was approx £45k before they shut down. Looking at used prices my guess is they will up this by £5k or more.
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I'd go down the Chesil Speedster myself. Still in the ethos of Morgan where it's modern-ish components but a classic car experience.
Actually I’d forgotten the Chesil - hopefully Westfield will restart manufacturing them this year. I like their version, as they don’t use an old VW donor car - it’s all brand new. And the electric version is interesting too! They use the rear diff from a donor car and I believe some of the floor pan, if you don't go with their bespoke chassis. This then allows it to be registered as an historic car. If memory serves me correctly, a half decent spec'd one was approx £45k before they shut down. Looking at used prices my guess is they will up this by £5k or more. The electric one was priced at about £73,000 a year ago….
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I looked at the fiat 124 when it came out and the Abarth version. I thought they were quite different from the mx5. I think they had quite different engines for a start. Hasn't the fiat got a turbo? I'm on my second Abarth 124 - great cars and they have a lot of differences to the MX5 on which they're based. Different engine, more power and torque, Brembo brakes, Bilstein dampers, limited slip diff etc. Small, light, and relatively simple - they fit my personal definition of a sports car and I'm not aware of any particular reliability issues. The exhaust note is epic and I prefer the looks. I admit to bias !  Sorry to disagree Heinz but I'd always take the Abarth over the MX5. They also hold their value far better which is a bonus. ![[Linked Image]](https://iili.io/HVYI0Ij.md.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://iili.io/HVYIHzv.md.jpg)
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986 or 987 Boxster S. If it had to be cheap then an MX-5 earlier generation car (owned a Mk1 years ago), but the boot is far too small for touring for me 
Graham (G4FUJ)
Sold L44FOR 4/4 Giallo Fly '09 Gen2 MINI Cooper ragtop '90 LR 90 SW
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Would have to be a Caterham I think but a 1600 BDA engined Lotus 7 bristling with DCOE's and if affordable might pip it to the post. Still remember my first test drive in a brand new (70 miles on the clock) Escort RS1600.
Richard
2018 Roadster 3.7 1966 Land Rover S2a 88 2024 Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450 1945 Guzzi Airone
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mph, as for the engine, it is perhaps more a matter of taste whether naturally aspirated or turbo in a small sports car. The reliability of the 124 engine has been very positive for you. You have the real experience with even two of the Fiat 124 in Arbath version. I have to respect that. That they look very good I already said, and the build quality certainly benefits from the fact that they were built in Japan. That they are stable in value I like to believe, because, as long as they were available to buy new, many people accepted it without much fuss but now that they are no longer built, they are suddenly perceived as very interesting and also as desirable and such a cooperation between Mazda and Foat might not happen again so soon.
'14 4/4 graphite grey
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I like them too but just like the MX5 and Abarth are not built for six footers at 14 stone so it is out of the calculation for me. I'd have one of these if it fitted me, they look great fun and closer to me than the CX series. ![[Linked Image]](http://tm-img.com/images/2023/03/01/3115f4_1ee0087ebe424ec3a3672e53aade6c2d_mv2.jpeg) No problem getting in and out, and more comfortable than my Roadster; but two abreast is rather snug.
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Part of the Furniture
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Part of the Furniture
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I was looking at the Petersen Bentley Blower at the London Classic Car Show on Saturday, stunning car, need a lot of money to own and run one of those though  It would be interesting to get a company like Petersen to take a Morgan apart and put it together properly!  Jon, that which you suggest is where I ended up, in that the GoMoG webmaster found me a Morgan that had been driven very few miles by it`s first owner, before he went abroad to work, thus it was stored for many a year, prior to a garage proprietor/ Morgan restorer buying it and performing a nut and bolt strip down and rebuild of it to meet his own standards, and perhaps to act as a travelling example of his craftsmanship. In the process of it`s rebuild using stainless steel fixings two pack black lacquer on the chassis, bulkheads and even the fuel tank, rubber matting on the underside of the front wings to protect the alloy from being deformed by stones thrown up by the wheels... Yeah lots of care and attention to detail, so much so it even won a concours accolade in 2002, and now 21 years later I still own it... My Morgan still looks pretty smart, all be it with only 35k on the clock, but it has covered a few very interesting miles in Southern Europe`s back roads...(-: No chance of a MIL light or digital issues, as it is cat free, and runs on carbs....Kevin sure knows how to put a Morgan together properly.. I had the opportunity very recently to own an early 70`s Lotus Elan Sprint coupe, which was the very first car sports car model that I truly lusted after when as a yoof and first caught sight of it and it`s underpinnings in a motoring magazine. I was fortunate enough some years later to have a very hands on relationship in the ownership of a tired old tart of a 65 non sprint Elan in my 20`s, but in time it had to go, a sad day indeed... With all that in my past and the chance of owning a coupe now.. on the wrong side of seventy years old... I would have jumped at it had it been available almost two years ago,when I was in search of an all weather sports car, at a time when the Mog was just too cold to enjoy on an occasional Winter`s day, in fact too cold for me, even on a less than warm Summer day now...  Coupes have ever been my preference in sports cars, having experienced a couple of decades of air cooled Porsche ownership, in time becoming ever more interested in the likely increase in driver involvement at reasonable road speeds that Vintage machinery might provide...? However, reasonably performant vintage machinery that could keep up with, if not better, modern traffic on my favourite routes around the Lochs and Glens was somewhat outside my budgetary considerations at the time. It took me approximately five years of learning all I could about Morgan while saving my hard earned, before Lorne determined I MUST buy THIS Morgan... and I did...  Currently feeling very fortunate to still own My +8, all be it existing as a garage queen, other than for a few hundred miles in any one year, and used less and less with the passage of time, but no need to feel too sad for this old man, as the machine that I bought circa 18 months back to continue enjoying a bit of all weather sports car driving, and which stopped me from buying the Elan recently, was from yet another iconic marque which played such an important part in my automotive past, and came in the form of a PDK equipped 991.1 3.8 C4S.... Far more performance than I am ever likely to make use of but it has all sorts of safety and comforts that perhaps more suit the old man I have become... and that my good lady also greatly enjoys driving it ... What`s more to want...? OK so not open topped two seater but if forced into that scenario, a Boxter derivative seems the obvious choice for ME.. 
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