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Lotus is a very British company with great history.
I think post Elise/Exige they have made cars a little drab.
We all want to see a new Esprit though don't we ?
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The Evora is not selling like hot cakes, even though the latest S spec was very well received by Evo Mag. About 70 for sale on PH classifieds. A bit too wide for my access at home, otherwise I might have been tempted - but not convertible, and not a balanced design from all angles.
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Lotus is a very British company with great history.
I think post Elise/Exige they have made cars a little drab.
We all want to see a new Esprit though don't we ? Like many people, whilst I hope that Lotus do survive I was never 'sold' on the Dany Baher six-car strategy. The cars look too ordinary for the price points, for example if Aston are struggling selling cars into the Ferrari demographic, how can Coco's Lotus 458 Italia Esprit look-alike make an impression in the market? Just my 2p-worth...
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Lotus is a very British company with great history.
I think post Elise/Exige they have made cars a little drab.
We all want to see a new Esprit though don't we ? Like many people, whilst I hope that Lotus do survive I was never 'sold' on the Dany Baher six-car strategy. The cars look too ordinary for the price points, for example if Aston are struggling selling cars into the Ferrari demographic, how can Coco's Lotus 458 Italia Esprit look-alike make an impression in the market? Just my 2p-worth... I would love to see Lotus go back to the type of cars that gave them their great reputation. A modern day Seven? A modern day Elan (Elise?)? Light, great handling drivers cars Bud
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Didn't I read something recently about Lotus purchasing Caterham?
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Tony Fernandez & Team Lotus bought Caterham, but nothing to do with Group Lotus. The badge in the side of the Renault F1 is as a result of sponsorship by Group Lotus. The name dispute in F1 drove a wedge between Group L and Team L which is hard to fathom. Classic Team Lotus is something else entirely.
It's all a bit complicated. When Group Lotus discontinue the current Elise, it is speculated that Caterham may take over production.
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The modern 7 is already made by Donkervoort, D8GT and D8GTO. www.donkervoort.nlRudolf
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Conceptually very good, ugly as sin, and over the top as far as power is concerned, not to mention hugely expensive. IMHO  I have always thought that a good sports car should handle well, have sufficient power to be exciting to drive, and feel as though you are going faster than you really are. Most of the classic sports cars have those characteristics. Even classic Ferrari and Maserati, which were built in limited numbers for very rich people, do not have huge power to weight ratios by today's standards.
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Conceptually very good, ugly as sin, and over the top as far as power is concerned, not to mention hugely expensive. IMHO I have always thought that a good sports car should handle well, have sufficient power to be exciting to drive, and feel as though you are going faster than you really are. Most of the classic sports cars have those characteristics. Even classic Ferrari and Maserati, which were built in limited numbers for very rich people, do not have huge power to weight ratios by today's standards. The best Loti IMHO are the ones which remain closest to Colin Chapman's philosophy - light weight before all else, and then it doesn't really matter all that much if it ain't that powerful. For this reason I think the large engined rip-offs of the seven are the least charming variants. It's also why I rate the Elise so much - a car that CABC would have been truly proud of. So light and simple that even with it's modest power plants it was one of the finest sports cars of it's generation. If Lotus are to survive they'd be best advised to keep it light, simple & affordable. Lotus were almost bankrupted before by trying to go upmarket, TVR too. If it's cheap & fun, the punters don't mind too much if bits fall off. Once the price starts getting to BMW M3 or Porsche territory they become much less forgiving....
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The best Loti IMHO are the ones which remain closest to Colin Chapman's philosophy - light weight before all else, and then it doesn't really matter all that much if it ain't that powerful. For this reason I think the large engined rip-offs of the seven are the least charming variants. It's also why I rate the Elise so much - a car that CABC would have been truly proud of. So light and simple that even with it's modest power plants it was one of the finest sports cars of it's generation. If Lotus are to survive they'd be best advised to keep it light, simple & affordable. Lotus were almost bankrupted before by trying to go upmarket, TVR too. If it's cheap & fun, the punters don't mind too much if bits fall off. Once the price starts getting to BMW M3 or Porsche territory they become much less forgiving.... I couldn't agree more... 
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