Talk Morgan Forums Community The Malvern Arms Sentiment in the Trad market.

Spent many happy days driving around that area when we lived in Herefordshire close to Kington, also spent many wet days in the Sennybridge area when out with the "Boys".

Can’t cope with the fried eggs on the 996 - like the early Aeros lights - just not right.

I used to drive those roads when I was still working.
My route took me via Builth Wells and on to Aberystwyth.
Lovely roads and ideal in my company Suzuki Grand Vitara.
As for Porsche cars, I’ve only ever been a passenger.
An elderly 911T (rather splendid), Jays Cayman (impressive) and more recently a Cayman GT4 (really impressive).
I just feel that now, I’m just too old to drive a Porsche.


Bud
4/4 - Stanley

Clipper, I too like many who had owned air cooled Porsches did not like the idea of water cooling changing and the sounds associated with the new engine, the fried eggs were indeed thought to be a step too far, perhaps more so in that they were also to be found on the less expensive Boxter caused issues for some..? I note that in more recent times it seems some folk seem to be suggesting that there may be a degree of "collectability" associated with the 996 because of it`s headlamp design, and perhaps promoting that the design was taken from Porsches 1988 GT1 24 hrs le Mans race cars. The one advantage I did quite fancy in the 996, was the chances that with water in the engine, the heater output might be a tad more efficient...?

Budster... I feel too old to drive my Morgan on most days when the air is cold, though I can be comfortable driving my C4S any day, but then, I guess much depends upon who one might define "drive"...(-:
Driving a PDK Porsche is considerably more simplified than driving a Trad Morgan, and more comfortable too. Making use of the Porsche`s flappy paddle, pushing a few buttons to select sports mode and open up the exhaust to be a tad more ..err..musical when in the mod to do so, can alter things considerably. (-:..

I suspect we choose to own that which we feel some degree of emotional attraction too, and without doubt I am a tad emotional about both my old Morgan and Porsche.. For me heritage plays a big part in that, and relative to both machines, all the hand built historical aspects of my Morgan, and all the quality engineering associated with Porsche as a marque winning in just about every type of race from Paris Dakar to LM 24 HRS, and everything in between...Whereas a Tesla is for me, is just a modern competent transportation device that more suits the old man I have become when involved in more routine drives in busy traffic.. Not that I do much of that either.. .

As ever, each to their own.

Just ordered a C4S - nice photos!

https://www.kaimparkgarage.co.uk/used-porsche-911-bathgate-west-lothian-5764693

I can understand exactly what you mean.

Buy something like an old +8 or MGB etc and spend your time tinkering - and trying to get up from the garage floor to find where you put the spanner you were using 30 secs ago!
Buy something exotic like a Porker or a Ferrari - and spend your time worrying about the next dealer service bill
Buy something cheaper and reliable like and MX5 and be bored

Its a no win

But that's the fun! I may have a change of heart when I'm old and decrepit, but at the moment I'm a sprightly (!) 54. Got no plans over easter so looking forward to doing a full polybush upgrade on the MGB, oil and filter change on both, and a bit of investigative work on the Mog to try and rectify a 'clunk'. There is joy in work.


And the beige driving experience at realistic motoring speeds.


There is great fun to be had in driving a lower performance car to its limit, I had great fun hooning around in my little Vx Corsa 1.2 and would occasionally surprise the odd German motor who could drive superfast in a straight line, but unable to use a steering wheel at the corners. The only reason I got rid of it was the overly complicated mechanics, taking pleasure away from maintenance. When I get too old and decrepit for maintenance I reckon an MX5 will fit the bill perfectly.

I completely disagree with you, I had great fun with my MX5. It's what the British should have built.

Do I detect a tinge of whimsey Clipper....(-:

On the other hand buying such a sophisticated and expensive machine from other than an official dealership has the potential to be disappointing in the passage of time.

There would seem to be no guarantee to match that of an Official Porsche Dealership (OPD) given the backup they have available. Porsche like most modern vehicles seem not to be without their occasional issues.

Given the potential cost of maintenance and repairs these days I suspect I would feel somewhat vulnerable buying a modern pre owned performance car without guarantee... Once a Porsche is outside the manufacturers guarantee period Porsche dealerships can provide access to extended guarantee insurance for their cars up to just under 15 years of age, and something like 140k miles (though don`t quote me)

My OPD were happy to carry out a complimentary check when I first bought my C4S, and in the Porsche system, further to that if requested and at cost to the customer, after three months of ownership, they will carry out a 111 point check to determine condition on any Porsche if purchased outside the OPD dealership, and if it passes, again at cost to the customer, the car can then be covered by the Porsche extended warranty insurance based system.

All of which seems best looked into should anyone consider buying such a machine, more so perhaps if resale value might ever be thought worthy of consideration down the line...?


As for age being a barrier to enjoyment of ICE engined vehicles, no signs of it in this vid...? (-:

This is exactly the point of driving for pleasure in my view. You need to be able to feel the car as it nears the limit, understand how the tyres move, what the steering inputs do, and so on.

Sure, you can do this in a high performance car, but you need to pay for an expensive closed track with extensive runoffs, and if you get it wrong you are looking at even more expensive repairs. On the other hand, larking about on a deserted B road in a car that has a much smaller performance envelope is not only free, but even if you do get it wrong you'll be sliding into the hedge at 40mph rather than 140mph.

For the rest of it, which usually involves just getting from A to B with the least grief, is actually more enjoyable in a lower performance car as you don't have to be constantly fighting the urge to go faster. My 4/4 on a motorway is perfectly happy up to 85 and can sit at 70 all day, but there's no risk of me absent-mindedly pressing a bit too much on the throttle and getting nicked for 90mph +