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Using the car will result in patination both exterior and interior. It's up to the individual to decide how much they accept and how much time/effort/ money they spend on maintenance.
Unless you coccoon the car and don't use it you will get marks.
This doesn't worry me as I want to drive the car so accept patination. Some is easy to treat, some need more effort. It's up to the individual to decide.
After 7.5k miles in year 1 I have touched up stone chips, cleaned the leather, washed/waxed etc. Having a garage makes this easier and prevents weathering issues.
I didn't spend £££££ to keep it tied up in a garage and depreciate. It has and will depreciate more but the enjoyment mitigates that. Morgans were one of the lower depreciation brands but not as good these days. Cars are not moving in the market and expectations of past depreciation- beating are no longer there. Owners are being over optimistic on selling value. A Morgan sitting and not used is a sizeable chunk of dead money that isn't increasing. Enjoyment is your payback.
Advice? Get what you like and deal with arising issues. Don't buy as an investment as that only applies to very few cars with exceptional provenance.


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We have the ivory leather interior on ours I dont think i would have been brave enough to spec it from new, everybody have been very complimentary on the interior but its a bugger to keep clean and have some water marks on the sill. As previously mentioned they dont like jeans and I keep removing some tarnish on the bolster every other trip. My 2020 plus six seems quite a popular colour as it pops up on much of the recent Morgan Blurb.I personally would go for a darker colour but whichever you chose it's the drive that really matters. Em

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Regular quick feed with a good leather conditioner helps fill any microscopic pores that could hold dirt, apply sparingly with one of those little polish sponges...leave overnight, quick buff next morning, takes just 10-15 mins total

It will literally add years to the lifespan and help retain the original colour


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Originally Posted by Anonymouse
We are considering buying a current-model Plus Four and going through the many options. Could any existing owners comment on these questions please?

1. We love lighter leathers, but with an open-top car there must be a lot of dirt that gets in. How have others found looking after leather in practice? Would we be better off with the rich tan leather - how does that wear over time?

2. Matching leather over the centre tunnel looks great, but what's this like in real life - does it get scuffed (and therefore should we just have carpet)?

3. The Morgan would be our "fine weather car" with another car for everyday use. We don't have a garage, so I assume it may therefore spend a few months a year parked on our drive, presumably with a storm cover and battery conditioner? Does this work ok?

Any other "actually living with this beast" thoughts would be most welcome, especially things we might not discover in the showroom or talking to a dealer. Thanks!

My 2022 P4 has cream leather has been driven roof down most of the time in dusty and wet conditions and the leather still looks great.

The key is to use a liquid leather shampoo when it looks a bit gruby and when dry, treat with a good leather conditioning cream.

I do not regret specifying cream leather at all despite constant harping by the neigh sayers.

I did go for the standard black carpet option, including the transmission tunnel as it was a standard cost option. Having seen others with 'optional' other carpet and tunnel finishes I am glad I stuck with the standard black. It works well, is durable and is the one area that takes maximum internal wear.

At the end of the day, a Morgan is a luxury toy so don't compromise on the finishes you really want, assuming you are buying new.


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A picture is worth a thousand words, and this is an image of my factory offcuts. I do have a much bigger pile of black leather, and all I can add to this is that there are a huge number of variations in black leather, depending on the skin. The thickness, glossiness, and grain can vary hugely, so "Black Leather" is not easy to match up.

Here, the first two on the bottom row left, are from the launch Plus Six Morgans. The blue is actually much darker but the camera lightened it. The bright red (centre), dark brown (upper right) and biscuit (lower right) are all of similar texture and thickness.

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This image doesn't show up the differences that much, but from the bottom, you can see that 1,3,5,6 & 7 have similar backing. 2, 4, and 8 are thicker, more textured on the back and stretch more easily.

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Originally Posted by DaveW
A picture is worth a thousand grin2 words, and this is an image of my factory offcuts. I do have a much bigger pile of black leather, and all I can add to this is that there are a huge number of variations in black leather, depending on the skin. The thickness, glossiness, and grain can vary hugely, so "Black Leather" is not easy to match up.

Here, the first two on the bottom row left, are from the launch Plus Six Morgans. The blue is actually much darker but the camera lightened it. The bright red (centre), dark brown (upper right) and biscuit (lower right) are all of similar texture and thickness.

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This image doesn't show up the differences that much, but from the bottom, you can see that 1,3,5,6 & 7 have similar backing. 2, 4, and 8 are thicker, more textured on the back and stretch more easily.

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Dave, you need to make a coat and then I’ll start calling you Joseph! grin2

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I've got a MY22 Plus Four, and I don't have a garage, and it stays out on my drive at all times.

I've put in a couple of security locking bollards, and I've got some cameras outside too.

I spent some time looking at different makes and types of covers. They need to be breathable (this is really important), multi layer, a good fit (so that it doesn't chaff with the wind), and not black (keeps heat down in the sun). The one I went for was Stormshield + Outdoor from Specialised Covers and they will have one patterned for a Morgan Plus Four.

With practice, the cover comes on and off in a 3 or 4 minutes, and I've got a large garden weatherproof box next to the car that will take the cover when its off.

I use the cover all year round, except maybe when the weather is very fine and I'll be using the car the next day. (I also think it keeps "nosey eyes" away from it too!). When the weather get colder I run a 40W tubular heater inside the footwell.

The car does get used in the winter too, if the weather is OK - the heater is great for this and the heated seats could fry an egg if you keep them on high!

The other thing I did was to get a top of the range Titan ceramic finish on the car to help protect the paint from 'cover rash' - so far after two years, I haven't found any marks on the paint at all. It also helps if you don't put the cover on if the car is dirty!!


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