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I am in DESPERATE NEED of S&S part 530-0016, which is a CAM PULLEY removal tool, necessary for the removal of the cam pulleys. I made a real WANKER of myself this morning …see this forum thread: https://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/806372/not-starting#Post806372 I have a call into S&S and left a message to see if it’s still available. No response so far… If anyone has this I would only wish to use it briefly and would pay the equivalent of the price to the loaner. I believe it is $116 and change on the last price list I can see it on. I would also pay shipping both ways
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Any engineering workshop should be able to make something suitable. Alternatively careful use of an impact gun, starting on a low setting may undo the nut whilst holding the cam pulley by hand.
2021 M3W 2013 M3W - Sold 1971 4/4 2 Seater 1934 Sports
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You know RogG I was thinking the impact gun might just get it loose. I think the most important aspect of removal and reinstallation is making certain it stays in the EXACT same orientation. I cannot tell from the parts diagram IF there is a part of the design that makes that happen OR if it is up to the expertise of the mechanic. I thought I would scribe a line from the center of the shaft onto the cam belt gear so I could better relocate the thing when reassembling.
If anyone reads this WHO has ever replaced the cams and has taken these off, please share your knowledge on this!
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2021 M3W 2013 M3W - Sold 1971 4/4 2 Seater 1934 Sports
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Thanks a million RogG!! That saves my arse! I’m going to try using the impact wrench now that I know I can reassemble in correct orientation!!
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Impact wrench couldn’t move it one bit…looks like I have to find that S&S part or have something made or make it myself. Thanks for the good information though…it will help going forward!!
Will
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Well, it looks like the only way I’m gonna get this fixed is to find a mechanic who can open the cam chest and take off the cam belt gears to remove the bent over indexing pins. Cannot find the S&S tool, and finding an engineering shop to make a similar tool would likely cost as much…just creating the specs alone would be very difficult. As much as I love driving it, me and this 3-wheeler are not a good match.
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions and support. That has been the best part of this journey.
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Will, I do not know the 3-wheeler, but I do know a bit about british motorcycles and have had many years in mechanical engineering. My advice is dont give up on this one, have a 24 hr break and a cold beer, clear your head and write down a plan of action, followed by plan B. Remember that most things made by us can be fixed by us, even when screwed up, just takes a bit of time and thought to think through each issue step by step.. Start with some basics.. is the nut that you want to remove with the impact wrench right hand thread or left hand thread, if you get this wrong you will be trying to tighten not loosen the nut, also, what size impact wrench are you using 3/8" or 1/2" drive, a 1/2" drive wrench has a lot more grunt than a 3/8" version.
There is a lot of wisdom on this forum, just approach the problem one step at a time slowly and ask questions. If you think its mechanically too much to do, then find a good motorcycle shop with experienced Techs that works on S&S engines or the bigger Harley engines. Remember you are dealing basically with a commercial bike engine..they will have seen similar issues in the past and what looks like a massive issue to you may not be to them.. When this problem is fixed and you again enjoy the Morgan most of this present hassle will fade away... Dave
Dave Plus Six "Squeak" Roadster departed. 1936 BSA Empire Star Q8. 1935 BSA W7-35. 1938 BSA M20
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Over many years of Morgan ownership and especially M3W ownership Patience is a required Virtue.
Bruce 1964 4/4 Series V Comp (Megan) 1994 +8 (Maurice) 2013 M3W (Olga)
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Well I’m all calmed down and once again the Morgan owners community is a true lifeline.
Phil Bleazey is helping out and getting me all squared away with a tool, plus I’m upgrading the pinion pulley while everything is open. No pulling the intermediate cam chest cover and rocker covers!
Thanks to all, but especially Phil!!
Will
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