Talk Morgan Forums Community The Malvern Arms +40 MOT regs altered thinking

Can any Telegraph readers confirm whether or not there is any truth in that it seems as the result of public consultation (!) that there may be consideration to bring back MOT or similar checks for vehicles over 40 years old, which in the UK are no longer subjected to such checks...?

Searching online, it looks like the same story was carried by several newspapers. The best explanation was on thisismoney.co.uk and to seems to have come from the FBHVC.




Link to full article: here

Doesn't sound from the above that it would worry genuine 'historics' .... might be a response to.potentially 0-60 in 2.7 secs and 160 mph Austin A35s with Tesla powertrains grafted under them by the crop of unregulated 'electrifiers' that have sprung up (and LS swapped invalid carriages! 🙂)

K

Thanks to Paul`s link, I jumped into the FBHVC website and there seems to be no excitement in the News section, though there is an existing page with all the relevant info re DVLA regs relative to the subject..

As to what or what is not a modified vehicle...? Finding originality in the Morgan community...???..

https://fbhvc.co.uk/mot-exemption-information

TBH making sure that any car, modified or not, regardless of age is subjected to regular safety checks to make sure it's not going to put people at risk strikes me as an entirely sensible idea.

I suspect there may well be increasing risks with the passage of time relative to the health and wealth of baby boomers in terms of their ability to maintain their formerly self maintained +40 year old machinery, with the obvious combination of risks so attached....?
Fortunately for me, I can still roll around the floor enough to carry out basic maintenance on my Morgan, crawling around greasing things, nut, bolt and brake checks, though getting back up is perhaps the most difficult part....Hmm...

A thorough medical of the drivers over 55 is more important to my way of thinking, being in charge (or not) of a vehicle capable of mass destruction should be treated seriously as it is in the aviation world. irrespective of age !

All ages should have a regular and thorough medical before getting behind a wheel of a car. Age may generally create infirmity, but the younger generation ability to drive needs to be questioned more. Note number 9 in particular below. re mobile phone usage. Its becoming too easy to scape goat elderly. when its young men who are the greatest offenders.

Top 12 Distracted Driving Facts & Statistics in the UK Between 2014 and 2019, a total of 133 fatalities and 446 serious accidents were directly linked to drivers being distracted by their phones – that’s an average of one major incident every three days.

1.Approximately 25,000 people are killed or suffer serious injuries in road accidents every year.
2.Approximately 2,500 accidents a year are caused by a distraction inside the vehicle.
3.1% of all drivers use a mobile phone while driving.
4, 11 million UK motorists admit to using a mobile phone while driving.
5,16% of drivers have admitted to texting or messaging while driving.
6.3% of drivers say they text or message every time they drive.
7 Using a hands-free phone reduces reaction time to 30% slower than at the drink-drive limit.
8 HGV drivers are the most likely to use a handheld mobile device while driving.
9 Young drivers aged 25–34 are almost twice as likely to use a mobile phone while driving.
10 As well as mobile phones, distractions inside the vehicle can include infotainment systems, satellite navigation systems, and headphone use.
11 Personal grooming makes a driver three times more likely to be involved in a collision.
12 Reading newspapers, magazines, and other printed materials makes a collision three times more likely.


Mortality statistics and road traffic accidents in the UK
An RAC Foundation Briefing Note for the UN Decade of Action for Road Safety


In 2009 2,605 people died in road traffic accidents in the UK. While this made
up only 0.5% of all deaths in the UK in that year, for those in the 15-19 age
group road accidents account for 25% of all deaths. What’s more, fatal
accidents on the roads are largely preventable.

The largest number of deaths in the UK result from conditions such as heart
disease (33% of all deaths), cancer (28% of all deaths) and respiratory
diseases (14% of all deaths).

External causes of death, which tend to be less disease and medical
focused, accounted for 3.8% of all fatalities in 2009. Road traffic accidents
make up 13% of all external causes of death. For the 10-14 age group road
accidents make up over 50% of all external causes of death.

15-19 years olds experience almost double the risk of death from road traffic
accidents (82.5 deaths per million population) in comparison to the general
population (42.2 deaths per million population). For males in this age group
the risk is higher still at 127.3 deaths per million population.

There is also a significant and notable disparity between the deaths caused
by road traffic accidents between men and women, with men being over three
times as likely to die from a road accident.

Deaths from road traffic accidents are much more prevalent amongst the
under 25s than other causes of death often reported by the media such as
hangings, shootings, stabbings, alcohol or drug abuse. Between the ages of
15-24 a young person is twice as likely to die from a road traffic accident than
be fatally assaulted by firearms, a sharp/blunt object or intentional self-harm
via hanging combined. Those in the 15-24 age category are also four times
more likely to die from a road traffic accident than from drug, alcohol or other
substance poisoning.


I believe all vehicles should be subjected to an annual safety check irrespective of age, During Covid when MOT's were extended the level of vehicle safety fell (as it does during times of COL pressures), you cannot rely on people to do the right thing and vehicle safety and maintenance can be very low on the agenda in cash strapped families.......the number of vehicles on the road without RFL. Insurance and MOT is enormous, its currently estimated to be in excess of 400,000 vehicle on the road without an MOT

Dredging my memory but I remember a study that had distraction from children in the back as the number one, with phones number two .... as demonising Mums on the school-run was deemed bad political optics it was glossed over and phones targeted ... not that I want any attention to slip off phone use while driving ... something I never do and something I would see dealt with severely.

K

Mom school runs stats supported by :- For the 10-14 age group road accidents make up over 50% of all external causes of death and 15-19 years olds experience almost double the risk of death from road traffic accidents