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brownbaker #832122 13/10/25 07:09 PM
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At the risk of sounding childishly bitter........I'm beginning to find myself hoping that the event is a miserable rainy failure...........🤷🏻‍♂️😆


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Originally Posted by John V6
150 is the go no go number not the maximum

So that is saying that the 75th anniversary celebration of the club could be cancelled due to lack of numbers/interest..........🤦🏻‍♂️😂

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Yes, that is my understanding but at no financial hit to MSCC. Apparently the risk is on SCT.


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Originally Posted by Themorganeer
Yes, that is my understanding but at no financial hit to MSCC. Apparently the risk is on SCT.

you can see why they might structure the event to ensure they aren't out of pocket then........🤷🏻‍♂️
but..... in doing so....... limit the potential numbers who may want to attend..... and make the whole thing about less about the whole reason for the event itself and more about SCT.....🤦🏻‍♂️

The blame must be with the management of the club for allowing it to happen this way.....🤷🏻‍♂️

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This is the email I got


From: SCT Administration <sctadmin@sceniccartours.com>

Date: 10/10/2025 17:15 (GMT+00:00)

To: SCT Administration <sctadmin@sceniccartours.com>

Subject: MSCC 75 - Priority online booking now OPEN



Good afternoon,



Thank you for registering your interest in MSCC 75 hotel packages.



Over 300 of you have registered to have access to priority booking, and with only 150 bedrooms avaliable, prompt booking over the weekend online is advised, to avoid potential disappointment for this celebration of a generation!



To book, booking is currently only avaliable online, by heading to sceniccartours.com/mscc-75 and selecting from a 2, 3 or 4 night hotel package.



Please be sure to also email f.whitefoot@btinternet.com if you wish to also secure one of the Morgan Experience centre guided tours, or experience drives/rides, as spaces are limited.



General bookings, subject to any hotel space being left after this priority booking window, including the ability to book by telephone, will commence from 0930 on Tuesday 14th October, as per the details in the latest Miscellany magazine.



Happy booking, and Katie and I from team Scenic look forward to meeting faces old and new, at MSCC 75, next July.



Best regards,

Kieran



So maybe I am wrong & there are more rooms and the 150 applies to early booking. Here is the SCT link https://www.sceniccartours.com/mscc-75


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Just had a look at the SCT website and there are no indications that any of the hotels are fully booked - I was able to click on the 'book now' option for all of them.


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It would seem that both clubs and much else has moved on a tad from the first club I joined back in the early 70`s, the Norton m/cycle club. We met in a pub, the one sheet newsletter was created and printed out on a Gestner, no cash changed hands, there was not much cash available back then... (-:

It has been interesting to observe the way that clubs and the expectations of the memberships has evolved in the passage of time. It would seem that the amount of money generated within clubs and the management thereof caused them to eventually be required to run along the lines of businesses, and in business where cash is involved, there is ever the chance of some going astray, and by the time the interweb came into existence, some things could not be hidden as simply as they might have been in the past, perhaps mirroring governments and life in general..?

Yup, it seems clubs required to be more business related given all that can be involved. On the other hand where would club minded people be without them. I have benefitted greatly from club membership over the years, in terms of mechanical information assisting understanding, and even cutting costs on parts, as well as the social side of things making friends along the way.

In time as with all things evolution played it`s part, the pub meets tended to included the occasional Sunday run, and by the late seventies in my part of the world as the classic car scene caused various clubs to gather together and create classic car shows in fields, and management thereof also included an increase in financial management.. etc.etc.etc... Club runs evolved to become the occasional long hotel weekend breaks, at Easter and perhaps September, allowing a wider scope for runs out into the countryside, using the distant from home hotel as a base to explore different parts of the UK over the weekend with fellow club members.

In time and as club memberships further matured, the weekend trips in the UK would extend to become lengthier trips in terms of time and cost extending into Europe, and beyond for a fortunate few... I would guess events and expectations extended as disposable income increased it would seem only natural that the events and costs thereof also increased, and when the easy money years arrived, potential in so many areas increased exponentially...?

These days that club memberships seem likely to represent the population in general, in terms of baby boomers perhaps being in the majority in the loosely related classic vehicle scene, perhaps best to enjoy what you can, while you can, and in your own way ...?

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So, lets look at the new-ish `edition column to Miscellany by Gary Pearson of MMC (News from MMC). He's banging on about how important the heritage owners are and how MMC are upping their game especially for classic owners and how they intend to be a parts supplier and manufacturer of excellence concentrating on those difficult to obtain parts. Is this just all hot air again? And perhaps this 75th do! is another example of The MSCC involving themselves too much with MMC and allowing ourselves to be steered by them and their choice of how they run things and who they engage to do it for them. They might make the cars but we buy them and it does feel a bit like the MSCC are being moved around by the tail!

Now while I have carried my soap box to an appropriate place here's something else I'm not to comfortable about either. MORGAN SPORTS CAR CLUB INSURANCE, or should I say Peter James insurance. Nothing wrong with Peter James insuring your car if that's what you want but this association MSCC have made with them and the fact that we are all being encouraged to use them through the club communications is IMHO wrong. We are all adults with a few years under our belts and can make our own choices and policy arrangements. Yet MSCC are telling us what a great deal they have struck with Peter James and how this will benefit us by using them. Mmmm..... well we can make are own choices thank you. So many MSCC members have put them to the test and their quotes are quite frankly extortionate compared to the opposition.
Now here's the real sticking point for me..... In MSCC Miscellany we have been asked to support this association with PJ insurance as it financially helps the club!

HOW, Especially as we are now in another vehicle related controversy re. car finance commission payments. and compensation payouts. Does anyone know how it financially helps MSCC to be using it's club to push this company as the chosen one over other specialists. The drop in other insurers advertising in the publication would perhaps indicate that they are a bit peeved that MSCC have taken this route and of course that will reflect in advertising revenue for MSCC....Won't it!

I could go on but I'm finding everything in the world these days to be extremely depressing! As a minion you can only hope that collectively the tide will eventually change for the better. However I don't have the time left to hopefully see these changes happen so I tend to retract into a smaller safer world where I still have choices but sadly I can now see that the greed machine has its tendrils touching absolutely everything and everyone, ever more invasive than I certainly thought possible. industries within industries purely set up to extract the cash and taxes on taxes.. reading some of the previous sentiments here I too am starting to believe that I may need to retract even further from the areas where I previously found solace. I think that when Dave Wellings announced that he was finishing contributing his maintenance column in Miscellany I started to reflect on my little world and as has been previously said just moments ago this started me questioning why I retain membership both nationally and locally. Where do I belong?, where do I get support and satisfaction, where can I help other Morganeers.... Well Its talk Morgan isn't it!

Final thought..... How far could Talk Morgan go if all of us disgruntled MSCC members started paying our annual subscriptions here instead of MSCC....... just a thought!

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Originally Posted by sewin
The drop in other insurers advertising in the publication would perhaps indicate that they are a bit peeved that MSCC have taken this route and of course that will reflect in advertising revenue for MSCC....Won't it!

I think the 'deal' with Peter James means that no other insurance company is allowed to advertise in Miscellany


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Mmmmm..... Autocracy!

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