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Originally Posted by sewin
Julian your spot on, All the long door cars have the same chassis' and are the same dimensionally in the tub. The wing size differs in order to fit the wheel off-set dimensions and are individually cut to fit each car for precise fitting. This means between the different cars there is up to 3" difference in width with the 4-4 the narrowest and the roadster the widest, plus four in the middle. There has only been one anomaly in the long door dimensions and that was a plus 4 sport with a narrow front crosshead. It was built in limited numbers as a limited edition however some new customer orders were requested to be built like that as well at that time.
The Roadster as Julian said has a larger dimensioned gearbox and therefore the transmission tunnel is larger taking up more internal space in the footwells, if you wish to fit a footrest/ security foot locker in the footwell the Roadster needs the 10" version rather than the 12" example for the rest.
So in conclusion the later, long door cars are all the same width within the cabin area. As an aside fitting a foot locker is a very good addition to your car. It will achieve a secure place for valuables and a much greater level of comfort for your passenger. I am 5'10" and sitting in the co-pilots seat is quite a strange experience as your feet are straight out in front of you with nothing to brace you. This is especially noticeable under braking.
I think my 2003 runabout was a long door but on the narrower chassis....?

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Originally Posted by nick w
I think my 2003 runabout was a long door but on the narrower chassis....?

Did it have the old-style seals around the sidescreens?


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I'll have to look at old photos.....

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No, no rubber on the side screen. It wasn't an easy up hood though. 9 Lift the dot on windscreen.

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Originally Posted by +8Rich
Love that colour.

Reminds me of Peter's Plus 8 on the Aero chassis, ex MMC demo car


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Originally Posted by nick w
No, no rubber on the side screen. It wasn't an easy up hood though. 9 Lift the dot on windscreen.

That's interesting, I had always thought that the switch to the wider chassis (the old ones were just 36" between the vertical faces of the chassis rails) happened at the same time as the change to BTR axles, heated windscreens and new-style sidescreens. IIRC the Easy-up hood was always an option rather than standard fit at that time.

One way to quickly tell if the car is on a wider chassis is to look at the headlight spacing on the wings. Narrows tyres and narrow chassis like mine and the gap is very small indeed.

Wider chassis but narrow tyres means a bigger gap, and wide chassis with wide tyres gives you the massive wide look.

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Long doors (came in around 1997) are not an indication of the end of the narrow chassis. They finished around 2002/2003. A friend has a 2002 narrow chassis - he didn't want the wider car.


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Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
Long doors (came in around 1997) are not an indication of the end of the narrow chassis. They finished around 2002/2003. A friend has a 2002 narrow chassis - he didn't want the wider car.

Wasn't the 2006 70th Anniversary 4/4 built on a narrow chassis to reflect the heritage of the earlier models?. I certainly found that 4/4 very tight inside.


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Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
Long doors (came in around 1997) are not an indication of the end of the narrow chassis. They finished around 2002/2003. A friend has a 2002 narrow chassis - he didn't want the wider car.

Yep, that's why I asked Nick about the sidescreens, I thought the early long door cars used the old-style side screens.


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