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Richard, Just a Minute ! Nicholas Parsons or Sue Perkins would have called you out for repetition AND deviation, so I shall too.
What on earth has your holiday in Ireland got to do with a leak behind the dashboard(s) of our beloved Morgan machinery. ? farmer

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Originally Posted by Moggo
Richard, Just a Minute ! Nicholas Parsons or Sue Perkins would have called you out for repetition AND deviation, so I shall too.
What on earth has your holiday in Ireland got to do with a leak behind the dashboard(s) of our beloved Morgan machinery. ? farmer


Call me out Graham I don't give a monkeys chuff if it makes you happy so to do - now had the late Great Kenneth Williams done so I would have listened as he really was the master of that game.

Who or what is Sue Perkins anyway..deviation ?

Have another super carefree day in glorious Devon and chill dear boy chill we only travel this way but once.


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Originally Posted by +8Rich
Who or what is Sue Perkins anyway..deviation ?

I was once a guest on a comedy chat show hosted by Sue. The other guest was Jim Bowen, of Bullseye fame. There may have been drugs involved.


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Originally Posted by TBM
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Who or what is Sue Perkins anyway..deviation ?

I was once a guest on a comedy chat show hosted by Sue. The other guest was Jim Bowen, of Bullseye fame. There may have been drugs involved.

It would be the only way...


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I could not believe how easy it was to replace the coloured switch lenses for clear ones. What a difference, so thanks for the info!


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My PCB went a few weeks ago...............😤😤
An indicator short circuit blew it.
Short circuit fixed a new pcb was ordered from the factory...... it blew as soon as it was plugged in....... £800 +.......!!!!

By this point my local auto electrician/genius decided that the only sensible approach was to completely re engineer the pcb.
He works on everything from pre war cars to the latest electric things......... he said he'd never come across anything as poorly done as my 07 4/4......🤷🏻‍♂️😆

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Originally Posted by Julian BB
My PCB went a few weeks ago...............😤😤
An indicator short circuit blew it.
Short circuit fixed a new pcb was ordered from the factory...... it blew as soon as it was plugged in....... £800 +.......!!!!

By this point my local auto electrician/genius decided that the only sensible approach was to completely re engineer the pcb.
He works on everything from pre war cars to the latest electric things......... he said he'd never come across anything as poorly done as my 07 4/4......🤷🏻‍♂️😆

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Julian, you have provided a prime example of that which seems to be the costs involved in maintenance and repair of modern vehicles in general.... Being of the baby boomer generation £800 to repair a fault in an indicator seems plain ridiculous, but I remember Peter`s (?) brake light fault that required at least two visits either to the MMC or one of their agents to have it resolved, which it seemed involved rather a lot of inconvenience in the process....

I suspect your autospark`s thinking on back-engineering the circuitry may be the simplest option, for as long as old components may still be available...?

You seem pretty clued up on motoring matters Jullian, I wonder if you might find something of interest in this 15 min vid, quite how much of it`s content may be A.I. generated I know not, but if even 10% of the facts presented are accurate... I do wonder where automotive "advance" might be heading...? )-:


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Jullian, The Morgan having been made from bits of the shelf of who knows how many marks is bad enough especially as most manufacturers only tend to supply parts for 10 years post production. Morgan are already at that point or close to it when Morgan get their sticky fingers on them! However when they take a standardised part and modify it using a bloke in a shed you know you're in trouble and the pcb boards in 2004 to 2012 cars at least are such an example and to some extent the Gdi cars to end of production of the now known classic.
Some of us see a 10 year old Morgan as relatively new and many buy into the brand at this point. I'm hoping that as Morgan sold quite a few cars with this dodgy fitment that a small independent shop might take it on themselves to offer a repair/upgrade option or even a replacement PCB with the faults corrected pre production. To have an indicator short which can result in a blown board is just truly ridiculous and even when early on they knew of the problems they chose to do nothing about it. Let's hope their BMW drive train and electronics on the CX and beyond were totally designed by BMW and they didn't get to touch it or their days are truly numbered. You're paying Porsche money now for a new car and lets be honest unless you have a 10 car garage the Porsche doesn't break down!

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Originally Posted by Luddite
Originally Posted by Julian BB
My PCB went a few weeks ago...............😤😤
An indicator short circuit blew it.
Short circuit fixed a new pcb was ordered from the factory...... it blew as soon as it was plugged in....... £800 +.......!!!!

By this point my local auto electrician/genius decided that the only sensible approach was to completely re engineer the pcb.
He works on everything from pre war cars to the latest electric things......... he said he'd never come across anything as poorly done as my 07 4/4......🤷🏻‍♂️😆

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Julian, you have provided a prime example of that which seems to be the costs involved in maintenance and repair of modern vehicles in general.... Being of the baby boomer generation £800 to repair a fault in an indicator seems plain ridiculous, but I remember Peter`s (?) brake light fault that required at least two visits either to the MMC or one of their agents to have it resolved, which it seemed involved rather a lot of inconvenience in the process....

I suspect your autospark`s thinking on back-engineering the circuitry may be the simplest option, for as long as old components may still be available...?

You seem pretty clued up on motoring matters Jullian, I wonder if you might find something of interest in this 15 min vid, quite how much of it`s content may be A.I. generated I know not, but if even 10% of the facts presented are accurate... I do wonder where automotive "advance" might be heading...? )-:


I think the video and its message could be repeated across most of the big manufacturers now.
Only the Chinese seem to be impervious to it at the moment.... but who knows what their actual sales numbers are...🤷🏻‍♂️
The rush to electrify motoring seems to be faltering, as it seems is the rush to net zero in the UK.
Time will tell what happens, government intervention to influence a free market doesn't usually work, it will fail again with the eco revolution I suppose......🤷🏻‍♂️
What with AI, EV, IT and net zero we'll all be back to horses and carts living in a new dark age within 25 years......🤦🏻‍♂️

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Originally Posted by sewin
Jullian, The Morgan having been made from bits of the shelf of who knows how many marks is bad enough especially as most manufacturers only tend to supply parts for 10 years post production. Morgan are already at that point or close to it when Morgan get their sticky fingers on them! However when they take a standardised part and modify it using a bloke in a shed you know you're in trouble and the pcb boards in 2004 to 2012 cars at least are such an example and to some extent the Gdi cars to end of production of the now known classic.
Some of us see a 10 year old Morgan as relatively new and many buy into the brand at this point. I'm hoping that as Morgan sold quite a few cars with this dodgy fitment that a small independent shop might take it on themselves to offer a repair/upgrade option or even a replacement PCB with the faults corrected pre production. To have an indicator short which can result in a blown board is just truly ridiculous and even when early on they knew of the problems they chose to do nothing about it. Let's hope their BMW drive train and electronics on the CX and beyond were totally designed by BMW and they didn't get to touch it or their days are truly numbered. You're paying Porsche money now for a new car and lets be honest unless you have a 10 car garage the Porsche doesn't break down!

I think that the BMW parts are pretty reliable....... the problems start at Pickersleigh Rd.......🤷🏻‍♂️😂
Those who pay £100k+ for a new Morgan have a right to expect a well sorted, tested and reliable sports car........😂😂😂😂😂

The PCB is the most hi tech part of my (any) trad............ I'm hoping that my sparky and his reverse engineering have taken the 'Malvern' out of the electrical system........🤷🏻‍♂️😂

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