Originally Posted By Peter J
Originally Posted By madmax
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34447545


So the lab chaps and chapesses probably knew diesels were a problem , this could be the same for all vehicles when driving on the road , never mind ...


Old, old news.

That the "EU Mandated" tests are virtually meaningless as a measure of polution and CO2 has been known by analytical chemists and engineers for years.
Taxing cars on CO2 output measured by these tests is totally unfair. Which is why the new UK car tax system is good.

The only value the standard tests have is to allow a crude comparison between vehicles, but even that is risky.

Internal combustion engine burn hydrocarbons which produce CO2 and other pollutants. Petrol engines are cleaner than diesel, but not as efficient at burning fuel. Because turbo diesels burn at high temperature and pressure they are more efficient, but produce oxides of nitrogen, which are hard to remove. There are no easy answers.

Short term small petrol engined hybrid motors are a good substitute for diesel, but they still burn hydrocarbons and I'm not convinced batteries are green enough through their product lifecycle.

Hydrogen power, anyone?



Since when has CO2 been a pollutant? We breath it out and trees take it in. All focus groups, Green Peace etc, distort the reality to fit their own beliefs. The test should be purely on miles per gallon. Twice the miles per gallon half all pollutants, as per a recent letter in the Telegraph by Lord Bamford. But of course we have the climate change religion to contend with - faith not verified by fact.


John
1992 plus4 connaught green