Originally Posted By Hamwich
Absolutely, and we should stop calling them ISIS or IS. They aren't a state, they don't represent Islam. Call them Daesh.

We also need to not permit the terrorists to divide the West from Islam. This is what they want, they want hate and war and division. We must help build the gap between Daesh and everyone else.

I am an atheist, I have no religious beliefs whatsoever. But I believe in freedom, and that must mean freedom to follow a religion if that is what is wanted. Muslims have as much right to that freedom as christians and jews, hindus and atheists.

As for the terrorists, there's a quote from an American General I rather liked, which went something like. "It is not for us to judge the terrorists, that's between them and Allah. All we can do is to expedite their meeting".

I agree with you on this.

Unfortunately what we are facing is not just a religious divide but a cultural divide that is being driven only in part by the extremists. I'll give you a few examples.

Up until the mid '80s in Sydney you never saw women wearing the Hijab, at the most older women wore a simple scarf. Now the influx of migrants the pressure is on all Muslim women to wear at least the Hijab. There was a gang of Muslim boys that were raping girls, When they eventually got caught their mothers were the first to offer excuses (the girls were little prostitutes) and spring to their defense.

At the motorcycle dealership we had a Moroccan women, married to an Italian who has converted to Islam, cleaning the shop. Only 10 years ago she used to dress, modestly, western style. As more Muslim women came to the town she was avoided by the other women until she started dressing in their style. In effect she had Sharia law forced upon her.

We have a German friend who has worked internationally and lives in what used to be a well thought of area of one of the large German cities. The area now has a Muslim majority and she now feels uncomfortable to go out on the street alone in her own city. To a degree she is becoming afraid of living there.

Peter

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