Originally Posted by Peter J
That should work, and if you do hit something unyielding, make a wonderful noise!!


Peter (dear member of the sacred inner circle... wink )

The latter part of your comment is true..but IMHO, the first is not. frown I am going to piggyback a bit on this thread..to illustrate the forum problems I mentioned earlier.

The joy of automobile forum is that it harnesses many minds. Amateur minds are not, per se, stupid minds and have the advantage of being able to think more easily out of the box. The good forum analyzes an often common problem, dissects it into its elements, discusses solutions and finally, has many people to go out and try and report. However, the normal format HERE has been altered. Some prolific individuals discuss nothing with the forum before going out and trying a single-mind-in-a-vacuum solution and present it for desired sumptuous approval. Those of us amateurs who see its failures are courteous and say nothing. Those that do NOT see its failings applaud. In that way, these mistakes curse the community forever.

The earlier Roadsters (which I am a fan of) have a grave problem at the sump (and a few other places). Here is how other forums would have handled this one

1. It would have been recognized that the problem has a number of elements.

a. Low ground clearance. Though other Morgans..Plus 8s until 1996ish and VERY bad until 1991 had less clearance.

b. A cast aluminum sump. The aforementioned Plus 8s had steel sumps. Steel sumps dent rather than shatter like cast aluminum. I keep an extra sumps for all my Plus 8s. When one dents, I swap in the second sump (30 minutes), bang out the dented one at leisure with a heavy hammer and a 2x2 and put that one in my stores waiting for its turn again.

2. That protective plates makes for even less ground clearance.

3. That leaving no clearance between a metal protective plate and what its supposed to protect does NOT mitigate the force of an impact to the sump. This can be tested by merely taking the plate before installation, putting on the designer's hand, and whacking the plate with a hammer force sufficient to raise a Roadster off the ground. Now examine the hand and post pictures of it to the forum so we all know what will happen to the sump. Yet leaving more clearance between plate and sump will also lower the ground clearance where each millimetre is precious!
There is also a possible problem of increased engine bay heat. All we know on that one is the air flow will be changed..but how?

The only two directions that could help here is increasing ground clearance..a la Mulberry or finding a steel sump. I have been looking since 2005.

So, IMHO, and the feedback I get, is that the solutions given here move this model backwards... It was less likely they could have happened if the format was different here and people wanted to bless this forum rather than use it only as a fan club or a selling platform. That being said, I highly like people who make any an effort to find solutions. That is one of the joys of owning a Morgan

Lorne