Originally Posted by Ian Wegg
To his credit, Jeremy Clarkson was always realistic about how much influence he had as a motoring journalist. He called the Ford Orion one of the worst cars ever made and urged people not to buy it. Conversely, in common with his Top Gear co-presenters, he heaped praise on the Renault Avantime, calling it a "fantastic" car that he "adored". The Orion was a best seller, shipping 70,000 models a year in the UK. The Avantime sold 447 during its run!

Yes have never been able to stand the loud mouthed judgmental giant idiot. (there is judgmental for you)...

The Avantime is a natural choice for a fat bastard is it not innocent manufactured by the surrender monkeys uk a marriage made in a cow field in the Cotswold covered in excrement budster fly waiting

My Company petrol Ford Orion was a gem and made the subsequent series of Jelly moulds positively pedestrian in comparison, then the underwhelming series of Mondeos..

Now this Puma ST is bang on cheap fun and I enjoy surprising knob drivers (German products @ Strange Rovers) with it that fancy their chances, it's performance. handling, suspension and brakes are on it for fast progress in all conditions. £19,500 a bargain.

£34,000 to you as it is the top spec model but with Ford management discount applied for me.

I'm budgeting for new front tyres on a 6 monthly basis grin2


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