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In preparation for MOT checked all the lights and found that the fog light on my 4/4 sport wasn't working. It's a light I have never had to use. Checked the fuse - OK. Power to the fuse - OK. Had a look at one of the brake lights which , besides the earth lead, had two live wires; one I assume is for the brake lights in the dark and the other live when brakes are applied. Having no wiring diagram I am lost what to do next. Any suggestions welcome
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There a re wiring diagrams here http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/electricindex.htmThe wires should be colour coded. I would check the earth on the fog light & if you have a mutli meter if power is going to the lamp.
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Thanks John. The earth is ok because the brake lights are on when switched on for nighttime driving also they come on when the brakes are applied. Unfortunately I didn't state the year of my 4/4 sport which is 2009 and the GOMOG diagrams for 4/4 don't go to 2009.
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Others are much more knowledgable than I on these later cars but just a couple of starting points for you:
In 1995 to 2005-ish era there was a relay that controlled the rear fog light , this was known as the infamous "spider" (not sure why , it didn't have 8 wires into it) IF this is fitted to your car , then I would have a look at it as they do fail in service, I have had to replace one (also at MoT time)
I think the later Duratec +4s (and therefore probably the 4/4s) have a lighting control module (LCM) in the wiring behind the dash. This is quite a complex piece of kit, and it would probably be necessary to replace it with a known one and see if it works.
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It will only work with the headlamps on. Have you tried this?
The bulb holder is not great either so it could be a failed bulb or a failed earth. The fact that the brake lights work doesn't mean that there might not be a fault of the fog light earth. It could be inside the holder.
DaveW '05 Red Roadster S1 '16 Yellow (Not the only) Narrow AR GDI Plus 4
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Fog light on my 96 +8 was wired with a permanent live feed and switched through a relay, so if you have a power at the lamp could be they relay.
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My roadster same with separate switch under dash, work with sidelights on or headlights,
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Thanks everyone for your help.
Checked earth at rear light with multimeter - OK
Had a look under the dash and saw a relay, fixed to the bulkhead, on the driver's side. Removed and gave the spade ends a clean, reinserted and "bingo" the fog light switch illuminated with the headlights on. Interesting the relay had been "Made in Tunisia".
Eddie
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