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I'm sure my old aero did when in sport mode and you dropped it down a gear manually Peter I'd guess the mapping for the gearbox is different from you 320i to the wife's 435i. It does go like stink but lacks the aero sound effects. 
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My 8 doesn't seem to 'blip' on down changes.... a tiny amount, but not so you'd notice. Yours is a pre-paddleshift model Neil? I think the rev-matching (downshift blips) was introduced alongside the paddles and operates only in sport mode. This was explained to me whilst going up the hill at TOTH14 in the Speedster, but I was a little too terrified to take it all in...  It's a brand new one - mit der paddles. 
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My 8 doesn't seem to 'blip' on down changes.... a tiny amount, but not so you'd notice. Yours is a pre-paddleshift model Neil? I think the rev-matching (downshift blips) was introduced alongside the paddles and operates only in sport mode. This was explained to me whilst going up the hill at TOTH14 in the Speedster, but I was a little too terrified to take it all in... I think you're not driving it hard enough Neil!  My understanding was that the only alteration to the original programme was to incorporate the paddles, the basic gearbox software remains the same (as developed on my old AeroMax) and if you're using manual the box certainly blips on down changes, though maybe not as much as a PDK in sports mode!  
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1970 Morgan Plus 8 - Moss Box (Indigo Blue)
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The wifes 4 new 4 series has an 8 speed ZF box which makes the aero seem agricultural.  Bentley also fit a version of that box in the V8 models Asbojohn, what a great box... 
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1970 Morgan Plus 8 - Moss Box (Indigo Blue)
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My understanding was that the only alteration to the original programme was to incorporate the paddles, the basic gearbox software remains the same (as developed on my old AeroMax) and if you're using manual the box certainly blips on down changes, though maybe not as much as a PDK in sports mode! I used the SS yesterday and although it does blip it doesn't appear to blip as aggressively as the Alpina programming. The Morgan/BMW programming is far lazier through the shifts, slurrying more on each change. The Alpina punches the shifts in quicker in manual mode. There are times when I think it would work on the SS and times when the lazy approach just seems right.
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This is a list (from Wiki) of cars fitted with the ZF 6 Speed box: clearly incomplete as the Morgans are not mentioned!
2001–2008 BMW E65/E66 7 Series
2002–2005 Jaguar XK8/XKR
2003–2008 Jaguar S-Type
2003–2009 Jaguar XJ (X350)
2003–2010 BMW E63/E64 6 Series
2003–present Range Rover
2003-2012 Rolls-Royce Phantom (2003)
2007-present Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupé
2004–2006 BMW E53 X5 V8
2003–2010 BMW E60 5 Series
2005–2011 BMW E90 3 Series
2005–2013 Land Rover Discovery
2005–present Ford Falcon (BF, FG)
2005–present Ford Territory (SY & SY II AWD; SZ RWD)
2005–2008 Lincoln Navigator
2006–present Jaguar XK/XKR
2006–2012 Range Rover & Sport All AJV8 4.4L and 5.0L
2007–2013 BMW E70 X5 Except 4.0d
2007–2012 Maserati Quattroporte
2008–2012 BMW F01/02 7 Series (except 760i/Li and Hybrid 7)
2008–2011 Kia Mohave
2009–2011 Hyundai Genesis V8 4.6L
2009–present Jaguar XF
2006-2009 Bentley Arnage
2008-2011 Bentley Brooklands
Some exalted company, other than the Kia and Hyundai!!
The new 8 speed box is used on all BMW models, from Mini to Rolls Royce.
I wonder when we will see it on a Morgan!
Peter,
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The new 8 speed box is used on all BMW models, from Mini to Rolls Royce.
I wonder when we will see it on a Morgan! When the price comes down??? IIRC the 6HP is available in a number of guises (19,26,28,32) and each with different torque converter - which are the ultimate limitation on torque
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can someone tel me what oil i should be putting in this engine and what the oil rating is , as i keep getting told mixed info Also has any one tuned this engine yet?
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Also has any one tuned this engine yet? I suspect any additional power will be hard and expensive to come by. A remap may find 10-15ps, but really you're looking at old skool tuning: - ports polished - bored/stroked - lightweight crank, cylinders - remove vanos and swap in an aggressive cam - optimised intake manifold - optimised exhaust manifold All of which will be expensive. I am tempted to talk to the guys at Emmenegger Power to see what is possible with that engine
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can someone tel me what oil i should be putting in this engine and what the oil rating is , as i keep getting told mixed info Also has any one tuned this engine yet? Shell Helix 5W-30 in my +8 (same engine as yours) and I would recommend an oil change every 5,000 miles or 8,000km's. What does your handbook say?
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