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Can anyone recommend a power steering system for a 1977 +8
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I don't think there is one available, unless one was to convert to rack and pinion and go for the Jack Knight system?
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Someone we know had one of these fitted to a Rover P4 with good results. No idea on Morgan fit. http://simonebirchall.co.uk/shop.html
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Your steering may be capable of improvement without immediate recourse to a power steering conversion. The OEM steering box is a Cam Gears unit, check it has oil in it and that it is correctly adjusted with sufficient 'play' in the straight ahead position. Have the tracking checked, it does make a difference and it will give the tyre place a good laugh when you quote the toe in fractions of an inch. Fit Mulfab roller bearings under the main springs, it will lighten the steering effort. If you have a steering wheel with smaller diameter than OEM or wider tyres, think again. AND, different makes of tyre will impart totally different feelings in the steering. All easily do-able, if you can get hold of a Gemmer steering box and brackets - do so.
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"Fit Mulfab roller bearings under the main springs," I have radial (or ball) bearings made by Mulfab. Does Mulfab make something else?
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Hello Guernsey.
I have recently fitted my plus 8 with power steering. I favored the hydraulic system having looked at all the angles. and subsequently got one from John Southall of Classic Driving Developments. A significant factor for you is that the hydraulic system comes with a rack and pinion box, so with a few conversion bits your pointing in the right direction. Also by having a new rack as part of the kit the system enables higher geared steering, brilliant for sport,and you can get away with a small diameter wheel if needed.
Having power steering totally transforms the car I found I am now steering from the wrist rather than the arms and the knock back on rough roads, especially cornering has all but vanished. I am also impressed with the feel of the steering it feels much more direct than the electric version which I tried. If you are up for trials , solo or auto test then I think this is a brilliant up grade. Certainly helped me.
The fitting was a bit involved as you may have to remove a section of the inner wing with a hole saw and cutting disk but all in all it was OK The quality of the kit is outstanding and I for one am now a power steering convert
Obviously this is my personal opinion but I hope it helps.
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Hello Guernsey.
I have recently fitted my plus 8 with power steering. I favored the hydraulic system having looked at all the angles. and subsequently got one from John Southall of Classic Driving Developments. A significant factor for you is that the hydraulic system comes with a rack and pinion box, so with a few conversion bits your pointing in the right direction. Also by having a new rack as part of the kit the system enables higher geared steering, brilliant for sport,and you can get away with a small diameter wheel if needed.
Having power steering totally transforms the car I found I am now steering from the wrist rather than the arms and the knock back on rough roads, especially cornering has all but vanished. I am also impressed with the feel of the steering it feels much more direct than the electric version which I tried. If you are up for trials , solo or auto test then I think this is a brilliant up grade. Certainly helped me.
The fitting was a bit involved as you may have to remove a section of the inner wing with a hole saw and cutting disk but all in all it was OK The quality of the kit is outstanding and I for one am now a power steering convert
Obviously this is my personal opinion but I hope it helps.
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As a matter of interest, what did your conversion cost? Rog
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Hi there, We had our Roadster upgraded by Classic Driving Developments with the hydraulic version 2 years ago and absolutely love it. We had the complete job done by them, didn't fancy taking on such a large task like this on my own. Website details below: http://www.classicdrivingdevelopment.co.uk/products.aspHope it helps. Good luck Terry
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The conversion was done here in my own workshop so no direct labour although i guess it should be about a day and a half. The kit from classic developments from memory was £2300 or so the costs are on there website.
Sounds expensive but in my case I needed to source a rack and pinion for a 1977 plus 4 steering upgrade, so the old removed rack saved me some money.
I noticed a comment added by Terrys he used the same supplier. Take a look at his comments I fully agree.
Cheers Oxenhall
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