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Where are all the charging points coming from. High rise flats, rows of terraced houses fronting on to foot paths. Currently there are a number of providers for charging and you have to use the one you have an account with, and some charging points are specific to certain makes of car. Why didn't, or doesn't, the government standard these so as to, in effect, ease the problem of charging.

Dave, I had a quick count in my garden and, with an acre of lawn ( well grass ) plus approx. 40 trees I think I can run a 7 litre V8 until I die !!

I can't find the reference but I do recall that a study revealed that termite mounds in Australia produce more greenhouse gases than cars. Perhaps we should ask the termites to plant more trees.

Despite all the improved battery technology this, once again, highlights the need for to advance fuel cell technology. Scientists and car makers already know that this is the way to go but government and the general public are still fixing on battery EVs.

You probably aren't aware of the amount of infrastructure being installed to cope with this, but that doesn't mean it's not happening. Companies are spending millions and millions on this.

https://www.tunneltalk.com/UK-04Jul2019-London-Power-Tunnels-project-rewires-the-capital.php

https://energysavingtrust.org.uk/tr...electric-vehicle-charging-infrastructure

https://www.powerengineeringint.com/2019/07/09/uk-invests-37m-into-ev-charging-infrastructure/

and so on and on.

The government doesn't force manufacturers to provide common standards because it doesn't believe in that kind of thing (far too Socialist), preferring instead to let the market decide which system will emerge as the best.

Our local authority is developing a transport plan which will determine its strategy over the next 10 to 20 years, I expect yours is too, have a look on your local .gov site.

https://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/...plan-draft-for-consultation-171219-a.pdf

Within our parish, we are toying with the idea of community-level public transport based around the use of electric minibuses linking the local villages with a transport hub. The idea is that you will pre-book your journey via an app "I need to be in Gloucester by 10:30 tomorrow" and a central server will use route-planning and optimisation to plot a route that encompasses all the requests into an efficient journey and figuring out the price you'll be charged. Pick a common route used by lots of people and your ride will be cheap as there will be lots of people using it. Want to travel at an unusual time or to a distant location? Then like a taxi you would have to bear the entire cost yourself. The idea is that we can design a self-sustaining business model that makes each minibus a profitable proposition in its own right. Sort of like a cross between a bus and a taxi with Uber-style price setting.

Interesting article in this month’s Miscellany about the the future of Classic Cars.
The younger generation are not really interested in Classics and wether they will own their car in the future.
I know my two age 30 and 33 are not interested my Morgan! They think itis an Old mans car even the new plus6 no interest!

Sorry mate, but have you got any evidence that governments are forcing car manufacturers to build BEVs against their will instead of HFC? Governments set emissions limits, they don't define the technology that is used to meet those limits.

If the manufacturers are choosing to make BEVs rather than HFC vehicles it's not the fault of government.

Interesting little insight from BMW for those of us who are not so well up on Hydrogen Fuel Cell Technology in cars.

Hydrogen Fuel Cells by BMW

Not even close. Globally, termites produce 1 to 3% of all emissions compared to animal agriculture which produces 14.5%, or ICE transport which produces around 15%

Tim. There are some states where the government is actively promoting fuel cell technology, California for example. But by and large government policy is promoting plug in EVs. Certainly they are not forcing car manufacturers to build plug in cars however, by and large, they are not promoting the necessary infrastructure for hydrogen. Certainly they are leaving private industry to sort it out with the market based theory of supply and demand but this is an issue that is far more important than the battle between VHS and Betamax. The same could be said for the standardisation of charging plugs. In my opinion it would be useful to establish a world plug standard for EV chargers and be done with it.

These days the standard for phone (and other devices) charging seems to have been established for USB. In part this was mandated by EU regulation. The current most common is Micro A USB but it has been pointed out that this is not really suitable for charging and USB-C seems to be taking over. In a way this is defeating the EU regulation for unified cell phone charging connections however in the end I suspect that USB-C will be the standard.

Since, in general terms, plug in vehicles don't carry their own chargers it is more important to establish a plug standard than it was with cell phones.