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Black and Whites on a 'non historic' is potentially a £1000 fine, and is an MOT failure.
That's true and all it takes is one grumpy copper. But the experience of most drivers seems to be that its unlikely. When it's MOT time I'll simply swap the plates for the yellow reflective ones. Never been mentioned at any MOT's and my plate isn't a historic one it's a 14'
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From a dull memory, I think I read in one of the motoring mags some years back that the registration could also be confiscated..!!! Good to know that the blind eye syndrome seems to exist for some aspects of Morganeering.. 
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Never been mentioned at any MOT's and my plate isn't a historic one it's a 14' It is classed as a 'major' so should be a fail if your MOT tester is doing it properly. If they're not even mentioning it to you (as in - "wrong plates, but if you get stopped, you've just changed them") then makes me wonder what else they're not doing properly..... From the MOT Testers manual: MOT Testers Manual
Registration plates fitted to vehicles manufactured on or after 1 January 1978 must:
-have black characters on a white background when fitted to the front
-have black characters on a yellow background when fitted to the rear
-be fitted vertically, or as close to vertical as is reasonably practicable
And: (d) Number plate does not conform to the specified requirements - Major
"Y mae dafad ddu ym mhob praidd"
1972 4/4, 1981 MGBGT, 1984 FLHT1340, 1980 XLH1000, 1990 ZX10
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I can assure you they are fully aware and are extremely competent.
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I'm not knocking it, I've had plenty of hooky MOT's in my time - just think that the correct information needs to be out there, so that people don't get caught out, or can make a decision about the (very minimal) risks involved. I know from experience that insurance companies will try anything possible to wriggle out of paying a claim.
"Y mae dafad ddu ym mhob praidd"
1972 4/4, 1981 MGBGT, 1984 FLHT1340, 1980 XLH1000, 1990 ZX10
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I think the point about visibility is more important. Mogs are low small cars & I prefer to have reflective plates.
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You could always order your new plus four in bright yellow, you could then have black and silver plates as a nice contrast and still be seen :-)
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I think the point about visibility is more important. Mogs are low small cars & I prefer to have reflective plates. and DRL's.
Richard
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2024 Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450
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Yes my LED side lights are wired to be always on including the rear lights. I once had a very near miss on an A road with a 50 mph limit when someone reversing out of their driver looked straight at me in by black 4/4 & still reversed out . I have since then always driven with side lights.
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David will have noted the sidelights front and rear are permanently on with ignition as with all 3.7 Roadsters. All selecting them on the stalk does is dim the instrument lighting as it reverts from bright daytime to night setting controlled by rheostat. This still only leaves the puny 5 watt filament bulbs in the front headlamps though, so ripe for upgrading as you suggest John.
Richard
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1966 Land Rover S2a 88
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