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Hi, I have a 2001 4/4 with 1800 Zetec engine. Just tried to get the plugs out as I think it’s running rich but can’t get a socket in to undo them. The underside of the bonnet is in the way. Do I really have to take bonnet off to get to the plugs or is there another tool for the job.
Thanks Phil
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Phil
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You need to get just the right length of socket...not easy.
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I've a 2002 4/4 with 1800 Zetec engine and use a 180mm long 3/8" drive spark plug socket produced by Koken. See https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Koken-16mm-Hex-180mm-Long-Spark-Plug-Socket-3-8-Sq/310321970005?hash=item4840a17b55:g:TWMAAMXQsmFRfqP9 . Its the perfect length to clear the cam cover while fitting beneath the bonnet. Also a very good quality tool.
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On my 97 +4 I took the bonnet off to be sure that the tool was square to the spark plug. It takes seconds if there are 2 of you . Undo the screws on the bulk head to remove the hinger pivot & lift out. Lay it on a blanket to avoid scratches.
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This is what I use, fairly standard 3/8 drive with a T bar and a box spanner over the end for a bit more leverage. You can't get it all the way out with this on the front plugs but you can get it cracked loose, then remove the T bar and use the extension as a "screwdriver" to remove it by leaning it slightly to one side. Caveat. If the plugs have not been out for some time, they can be a bit of a bu**er so take your time and presoak with releasing fluid. (See other threads on this subject) Also if they are very tight sometimes there is a tendency to force the socket away from the upright position while you're straining to get enough torque hence my box spanner extension. You can break a plug by doing that. (immortal cliche, don't ask me how I know) You don't need to remove the bonnet but it is a bit of a fiddle especially the front plug. BTW, when I do remove the bonnet, I undo the front screws not the back. The back, as I understand it, screw into the wooden frame whereas the front are CSK machine screws with nuts. I don't like re-tightening screws into wood on numerous occasions but then I do probably take my bonnet off more than many for various other jobs. I also replaced the front machine screws with CSK socket heads. ![[Linked Image]](https://tm-img.com/images/2020/06/23/IMG_1713.jpg)
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True re the screws but I did once only and took the opportunity to add sealant to the wood as water can come in that way & match sticks to get a tighter fit or reassembly.
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Interesting timely link to removing bonnets (for future viewers) Removing bonnetSuggest not to remove front fixings due to alignment. Wish I knew that I did both.
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I knew I must have had a reason for using the rear screws. Or was it luck? 
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Keith, the link doesn't work, could you re-post?
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